On 06/09/2013 20:55, gevisz wrote: > 2013/9/6 gevisz <gev...@gmail.com <mailto:gev...@gmail.com>> > > > 2013/9/5 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com > <mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com>> > > On 05/09/2013 14:51, gevisz wrote: > > Usually, when I open a new window frame in Gnome 2, I have a > Close, > > Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons on its upper-right corner. > > > > Sometimes, however, especially when I open a supplementary > window frame > > from a running program, its upper (text) bar contains only the > Close > > button with no possibility to maximize the window frame to the > whole > > screen, and it is extremely inconvenient. > > > > I do remember that I had a similar problem in Gnome 2 under > Ubuntu but > > somehow managed to get to the configuration where almost all > my windows > > had Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons. The only exception > was the > > Firefox sub-window to save a bookmark. :^( > > > > Just now, I have tries FXCE and found out that it opens all the > > sub-windows with the Maximize/Restore, Close and Minimize > buttons "out > > of the box" and without recompilation of all the programs that > do not do > > the same in Gnome (except for the Firefox bookmark sub-window, > of course). > > > > However, I am reluctant to migrate to FXCE right now because > at the > > moment I cannot achieve the same look-and-feel as in my Gnome > > (especially, I miss the the all-in-one clock-calendar-weather > applet > > with the world map showing the daytime at different locations). > > > > Could anybody advise me how to get the Close, Maximize/Restore and > > Minimize buttons in all window frames in Gnome 2. > > > I think the true answer is > > "You can't. The Gnome devs know better than you what you want" > > I'm happy to be proved wrong though. > > If it bothers you, just migrate to XFCE and deal with the pain. > It will > last only a short time. > > Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com > <mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com> > > > Currently, Gnome works better than Xfce for me, because so far > > 1) I found no way to switch keyboard layout from English to any other > language (while Gnome and DWM do this after tackling with evdev > configs), > > 2) Gnome allows more combinations for hot key bindings, for example, > I can not assign <Win>+<Shift>+<any letter> to any program launcher > in Fxce, while it does work in Gnome, > > 3) installing Orange in FXCE involves unmasking some dependent > packages, but I like to stick to the stable thread. > > All in all, I do understand why Linus said that Xfce is a step back > compared to Gnome 2 > (but I still have not got why Xfce is a big step forward compared > with Gnome 3 :^), as > have not tried it so far). > > P.S. I will probably post a separate question, but if somebody can > explain how to setup language keyboad layout switch in Fxce, > you are welcome. :^) > > I set up toggling the keyboard layout to <rWin> key in > /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf as follows: > > Option "XkbOptions" > "grp:rwin_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" > > It works for Gnome and DWM but not for Xfce. :^( > > Moreover, I need the keyboard layout indicator somewhere on > the Xfce panel, > but could not find any. > > > A short update: after installing xfce4-xkb-plugin, which was not > included in the xfce4-meta package > (and I did not noticed it earlier), I finally got a keyboard layout > indicator. At first, it did not work, that is, > I could not switch a keyboard layout in no way. However, later, after > changing some of the plugin's > settings, it suddenly started to switch the keyboard layout. > Interestingly, the applet continued to switch > the keyboard layout even after I have changed all its settings to the > original ones. Magically, the <rWin> > key also started to switch the keyboard layout. > > So, my first and most important objection against Xfce4 is no more > valid. The third one is not > so important. Only the second is a bit annoying but one can live with > it. :^) > > Now, my Xfce4 looks almost like my Gnome2. Its weather applet is even > more informative. :^) > > However, my original question about Deficient Gnome Window Frames is > still valid. > > But not so important any more. :^)
Window decorations are usually done by the window manager, I assume Gnome2 is no different? Have you tried running a different window manager that supports what you want? What is the Gnome2 wm anyway? Metacity? (it's been so long since I looked, I've forgotten) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
