On Thursday 07 April 2005 20:52, Eric S. Johansson wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Gentoo is not for newbies, nor for people who want to hide everything, > > that is why I send asking newbies to SuSE (which is IMHO a nice base to > > start from), or people, who just want something lean to slackware, and > > 'please don't bother me with technicallities like - where the shutdown > > button is'-people back to windows ... > > more blame the user. Building a system with a good configuration > utility and supporting manual modification of said configuration files > is not impossible. It just takes good design and the ability take > feedback on what users do rather than giving the grief to others at > having to change. > > the only reason gentoo is not for newbies is ego and hubris. > > ---eric
no, sensibility. gentoo is in a big part a do it yourself distri, way to overwhelming for a poor newbie. The first real error will freak him out and if he had not some quality time with gentoo before by doing some basic stuff, he will even not be able to disinguish a real error from a nuisance and so will be horrified even more. Before wasting days with gentoo, he can try something else, to see, if he likes linux at all. Remeber this stupid fork-bomb thread? How many people have read the security docs? I do not blame users, I respect, that not every user is able to cope with gentoo, something not related to intelligence, and that there a lot of better choices for such people. Why are some people trying to turn gentoo into something like ubuntu? Ubuntu, MEPIS, Linspire&Co are there for a purpose, so are fedora core, Mandrake and SuSE. Why doYOU want to turn gentoo in something like Linspire? If someone wants tools to hold his hands all the time - there are enough distributions out there, no need to turn gentoo into the next one. And where on www.gentoo.org do you find the statement 'gentoo is made for beginners and advanced users'? I can't find it. You need at least a little bit of knowledge to set up a sane gentoo box, and no tool will help you with that. It will only help unprepared users to waste a lot of time. Glück Auf Volker -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
