On Friday 02 January 2004 16:37, Mac Intyre, Steven wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is there possible a GUI install interface for Gentoo - similar to
> Mandrake.

no, and I hope, that there will be never one.
genflags/genkernel and the rest of this crap is newbie-friendly and 
non-working enough. A graphic interface would inhibit me, you and everybody 
to install gentoo the way, I, you and everybody wants it.
Today you should, but have not to follow the steps in the installation 
documentation, but if you have a good reason not to do so, you can throw the 
documentation in the bin and do it your way. Great.
With a graphical interface, this would not be possible.
If I need a special version of a packet, I can edit everything I need, and 
throw the funniest options at portage. How would I do that with a graphical 
interface?

>

> I have tried to install as per directions ... but got lost.
>
> Oh ... also Im new :)

<assholemode> 
If you are not able to follow the simple steps of the installation 
documentation, than you should not use gentoo at all. Stay at Mandrake and 
learn some more. Mandrake is a great distri for starters and for advanced 
users. If you are not a victim of the rpm-hell, you should definetly stay a 
little longer there. 
On www.gentoo.org is a remark about the intended users of gentoo.
Newbies are not mentioned.
 Not because someone does not like newbies, but gentoo is not a newbie 
friendly distribution. There are a lot of more choices how you want to 
destruct your system than in Mandrake&SuSE together.

If you want to realy learn about linux, have a look at slackware. If you can 
master a slackware, adjusted to your needs and wishes, gentoo is laughable 
simple. But if you are a fresh Mandrake-Linux-user gentoo has so much hidden 
traps, that you should definetly stay a little longer at your 'home 
distribution'.

Here are enough newbies on this list, people that have started with 
mandrake/lycoris/lindows shortly before and think that gentoo would be a 
great next step.
No, it is not. 
For lycoris/lindows&co users, it would be a logical step to switch to a 'real' 
distribution first, before they waste a lot of time with gentoo.
People that started with Mandrake&SuSE&co some weeks/month ago should stay 
there for some more time and test a distribution which does not hold their 
hands after that first, like debian or slackware. 
This distris are cool to really learn about linux. After that, gentoo with its 
special cases is not a problem anymore. In fact, for a trained slackware or 
debian user, gentoo is almost braindead simple.

<assholemodeoff>

If you still want to install gentoo, try to understand, where and why you get 
lost. This will help you a lot to master that problem. If you can not figure 
out the 'why', don't hesitate and ask.
All my ranting above could be destilled to this: "gentoo is a nice distrie, 
but not for newbies, because of some nasty traps and a lot of options-think 
about it, before you waste your time."

But if you still want to install gentoo, welcome. Nobody will harm you for any 
reasonable questions (and even the stupid ones are almost everytime excused).

Glück Auf
Volker

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