On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 19:47, J. Roeleveld <jo...@antarean.org> wrote: > On Mon, August 15, 2011 2:22 pm, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 16:08, J. Roeleveld <jo...@antarean.org> wrote: >>> On Mon, August 15, 2011 8:18 am, Pandu Poluan wrote: >>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 02:29, Joost Roeleveld <jo...@antarean.org> >>>> wrote: >>>>> On Sunday, August 14, 2011 07:20:18 PM Pandu Poluan wrote: >>>>>> On 2011-08-14, Joost Roeleveld <jo...@antarean.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> (Sorry for top-posting. Gmail Java mobile client sucks.) >>>>> >>>>> (Fixed this for you) >>>>> >>>>>> I was thinking of something similar to XCP ... but with Gentoo as the >>>>>> Dom0. I'll call it GeDZux (Gentoo Domain Zero Linux) :P >>>>> >>>>> A different name would be prefered by myself, not got an idea yet >>>>> though. >>>>> >>>> >>>> No worry. I know it sounds too... wishy-washy/unserious. >>>> >>>> Had originally wanted to call it "Xentoo", but some might mistake it >>>> for Xen2, or worse Xen 2.0. >>>> >>>> Ah well... We'll think of something later :-) >>> >>> Xentoo doesn't sound too bad, actually. >>> >>>>>> The problem would be how to 'streamline' the installation of a >>>>>> GeDZux-based Xen Platform. The SysAdmin already has lots of things to >>>>>> think about; he/she doesn't need to think (too much) about which USE >>>>>> flags to use, what CFLAGS to put in, which packages to emerge >>>>>> *initially*, etc. >>>>> >>>>> I agree, tools to quickly generate/close new domUs based on templates >>>>> would >>>>> help as well. With different options for where the disks are stored: >>>>> - File >>>>> - LVM >>>>> - physical partitions >>>> >>>> By domU here, do you mean Gentoo domU's or general domU's? >>> >>> Any domU. As far as I am aware, any domU can be configured to use any >>> block-backend for the partitions/drives. >>> >>>> Citrix XenServer's 'template' feature comes to mind... >>> >>> Along with cloning/copying/export/....? >>> VMWare ESX has similar options. >>> >> >> Cloning/copying, check (both "fast storage-based clone" and "full copy") >> >> Export, check. >> >> Move/migrate, check. >> >> If we want similar features, we really should learn about XCP & XAPI >> [http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XAPI_Developer_Guide] >> >> XCP is Citrix XenServer's "engine", released free a couple of months ago. >> >> XAPI is the 'smartness' of XenServer, and thus a part of XCP >> [http://xen.org/products/cloudxen.html] > > Check... > >>>>>> That is, how to provide sensible defaults yet not irreversibly >>>>>> removing Gentoo's freedom. So, GeDZux will be a Gentoo variant, a >>>>>> 'submetadistro', if you will :P >>>>> >>>>> A profile putting all the necessary tools (xen, kernel, bridge,....) >>>>> as >>>>> required. >>>> >>>> Aha! Good idea. Let me learn how to make a profile then. >>> >>> That way we can also set default USE-flags suitable for when using Xen. >>> >> >> Gotcha :-) >> >> I'm going to try out on my company's VMware boxes (the guys at >> xen-users said that Xen runs okay on VMware, albeit without HVM domU >> support). > > I think starting with a list of packages and use-flags needed to get PV > and HVM domains running would be a good starting point. > Then, we can put that into a profile and create a stage4 tar-file with > current versions. >
I assume those are packages and use-flags on the dom0? I agree. Anyways, good news: I may soon land my grubby hands on an unused IBM Server. It's a new-ish one, AFAICT, so it should support VT-x. We can thus test HVM domU's, yay! > I think it would be a good idea to try to continue on this with the > maintainers for Xen on Gentoo? > Aren't they on this list, too? Rgds, -- FdS Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ • Blog : http://pepoluan.tumblr.com • Linked-In : http://id.linkedin.com/in/pepoluan
