On Mon, August 15, 2011 2:22 pm, Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 16:08, J. Roeleveld <jo...@antarean.org> wrote: >> On Mon, August 15, 2011 8:18 am, Pandu Poluan wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 02:29, Joost Roeleveld <jo...@antarean.org> >>> wrote: >>>> On Sunday, August 14, 2011 07:20:18 PM Pandu Poluan wrote: >>>>> On 2011-08-14, Joost Roeleveld <jo...@antarean.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> (Sorry for top-posting. Gmail Java mobile client sucks.) >>>> >>>> (Fixed this for you) >>>> >>>>> I was thinking of something similar to XCP ... but with Gentoo as the >>>>> Dom0. I'll call it GeDZux (Gentoo Domain Zero Linux) :P >>>> >>>> A different name would be prefered by myself, not got an idea yet >>>> though. >>>> >>> >>> No worry. I know it sounds too... wishy-washy/unserious. >>> >>> Had originally wanted to call it "Xentoo", but some might mistake it >>> for Xen2, or worse Xen 2.0. >>> >>> Ah well... We'll think of something later :-) >> >> Xentoo doesn't sound too bad, actually. >> >>>>> The problem would be how to 'streamline' the installation of a >>>>> GeDZux-based Xen Platform. The SysAdmin already has lots of things to >>>>> think about; he/she doesn't need to think (too much) about which USE >>>>> flags to use, what CFLAGS to put in, which packages to emerge >>>>> *initially*, etc. >>>> >>>> I agree, tools to quickly generate/close new domUs based on templates >>>> would >>>> help as well. With different options for where the disks are stored: >>>> - File >>>> - LVM >>>> - physical partitions >>> >>> By domU here, do you mean Gentoo domU's or general domU's? >> >> Any domU. As far as I am aware, any domU can be configured to use any >> block-backend for the partitions/drives. >> >>> Citrix XenServer's 'template' feature comes to mind... >> >> Along with cloning/copying/export/....? >> VMWare ESX has similar options. >> > > Cloning/copying, check (both "fast storage-based clone" and "full copy") > > Export, check. > > Move/migrate, check. > > If we want similar features, we really should learn about XCP & XAPI > [http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XAPI_Developer_Guide] > > XCP is Citrix XenServer's "engine", released free a couple of months ago. > > XAPI is the 'smartness' of XenServer, and thus a part of XCP > [http://xen.org/products/cloudxen.html]
Check... >>>>> That is, how to provide sensible defaults yet not irreversibly >>>>> removing Gentoo's freedom. So, GeDZux will be a Gentoo variant, a >>>>> 'submetadistro', if you will :P >>>> >>>> A profile putting all the necessary tools (xen, kernel, bridge,....) >>>> as >>>> required. >>> >>> Aha! Good idea. Let me learn how to make a profile then. >> >> That way we can also set default USE-flags suitable for when using Xen. >> > > Gotcha :-) > > I'm going to try out on my company's VMware boxes (the guys at > xen-users said that Xen runs okay on VMware, albeit without HVM domU > support). I think starting with a list of packages and use-flags needed to get PV and HVM domains running would be a good starting point. Then, we can put that into a profile and create a stage4 tar-file with current versions. I think it would be a good idea to try to continue on this with the maintainers for Xen on Gentoo? -- Joost
