On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 12:27 PM Michael Orlitzky <m...@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> On 07/24/2018 12:14 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> >
> > I don't believe anybody suggested making Gentoo harder to customize.
> > This is just about setting reasonable defaults.
>
> For the (N+1)th time:

Well, if it was already said, why did you add another reply?

> enabling this flag by default does make Gentoo
> harder to customize, because you can't turn it off.

This was already addressed in a previous comment - PMS can be modified
to nullify flags, and arguably it should already work this way (though
that means subprofiles can't actually use -flags).

> > You can run a server without bash, openrc, sysvinit, or glibc.  Should
> > these also be removed from the base profile?
>
> Three of those four aren't in the base profile. Yeah, it was a good idea
> to remove them.

It includes virtual/service-manager, which pulls in sysvinit and
openrc by default.  You can run just fine without any service manager.
Just point the kernel at your daemon and it will launch it as PID 1.
Also, you can use sysvinit without openrc and have it launch your
daemon, but that also won't satisfy service-manager.

But, none of this matters, because people who REALLY want to run
without a service manager can do that with package.provided.  Again,
this is about sane defaults, and having a service manager is a sane
default.

-- 
Rich

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