Please provide substantial evidence for your claims. Furthermore, a profile of your choice would be honorable.
On July 19, 2018 9:58:25 PM EDT, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: >On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:42 PM Andrew Savchenko <birc...@gentoo.org> >wrote: >> >> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 16:51:17 -0500 Ben Kohler wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > I'd like to propose adding USE=udev to our linux profiles (in >> > profiles/default/linux/make.defaults probably). This flag is >already >> > enabled on desktop profiles but it also affects quite a few >packages >> > used on non-desktop linux systems. >> > >> >> I have server setups with udev disabled for most packages. So udev >> enabled by default will create maintenance problems. While I'm >> perfectly fine with udev enabled by default on desktops, it should >> not be forced on minimalistic setups like servers or containers. > >80% of the servers on the planet are running a linux distro, and 99% >of those are probably running udev. Gentoo is probably the only >distro where making udev the (trivially disabled) default is even >remotely controversial. > >Maybe we need some kind of ultra-minimal profile for people who really >don't want anything installed if they didn't put it there. It seems >odd to make that sort of configuration our "base" as it really isn't a >normal configuration by any standard. > >There is nothing wrong with people who want to start with a minimal >profile. I just don't think it makes a lot of sense to have that as a >default starting point. There is no reason that "base" needs to be a >subset of all the other profiles. > >If for some reason we don't go with this, perhaps it would at least >make sense to have a server profile that enables it by default and >make base something that normal users are discouraged from using. > >-- >Rich -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.