-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 01/23/2016 12:52 AM, Ian Delaney wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:30:14 -0800 Daniel Campbell <z...@gentoo.org> > wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 > >> On 01/21/2016 02:41 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 06:45:20PM +0100, Micha?? Górny wrote >>> >> [...] [...] [...] >>> >>> I think you misunderstood Roy. He was speaking about >>> "unmaintained but perfectly functional software". You're >>> talking about "a package that clearly doesn't build or >>> otherwise simply doesn't work, could not have worked for past 3 >>> years". Between those 2 extremes will be many cases of >>> doesn't-work-for-me/works-for-me. Who'll be the final >>> arbiter? >>> >>> Maybe we should start a "gentoo-ebuilds" mailing list to help >>> regular users learn the ins and outs of making ebuilds. Once >>> regular users run a lot of their own ebuilds from their local >>> overlays, then it would be possible to do draconian pruning of >>> the "official portage tree", without so adversely affecting >>> regular users. This would fit in with the mantra of Gentoo >>> being about freedom of choice. >>> >>> E.g. I use Pale Moon, a fork of Firefox. Currently, I have to >>> build as regular user, su, and copy the binary to /usr/local. >>> You can see "Walter's excellent adventure" <G> as I learn the >>> build process at... >>> https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=10002 >>> >>> I'd like to have Portage manage the process. The ebuild from >>> Firefox should serve as a template, because they both use the >>> same weird Mozilla build setup. The main change should be >>> where the source is pulled from. >>> > >> The idea sounds nice, but there's already the devmanual to cover >> ebuild development, and now that the gentoo repo is in git, any >> ebuilds that get treecleaned can be fetched again through >> history, and users can then add those to their personal >> overlay(s) and keep the piece if they break. > >> I like the idea of encouraging people to learn good ebuild >> writing, but who really has the time and skill to teach it? > > > me. Been doing it for months. You had not noticed? via > #gentoo-proxy-maint, which I made from scratch, despite the notion > initially being discounted by one mrueg. He now is a colleague in > the channel. > I didn't, actually. I guess the only thing I've seen as a result of your work is possibly more new devs. That's pretty awesome, though; I had no idea. I can't speak for other devs but I respect people who have the patience and gift to teach people. You helped me a little when I was becoming a developer and I appreciate it.
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