On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 06:45:20PM +0100, Micha?? Górny wrote
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 17:25:02 +0000
> Roy Bamford <neddyseag...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> > There is no point in removing unmaintained but perfectly functional
> > software from the tree.  It needs to be both unmaintained and broken.
> > Broken being evidenced by at least one open bug.
> 
> That's nonsense. In fact, that's exactly the opposite of what should
> be removed.
> 
> If I see a package that clearly doesn't build or otherwise simply
> doesn't work, could not have worked for past 3 years, are you forcing
> me to waste a time reporting a bug to no maintainer who could fix it?

  I think you misunderstood Roy.  He was speaking about "unmaintained
but perfectly functional software".  You're talking about "a package
that clearly doesn't build or otherwise simply doesn't work, could not
have worked for past 3 years".  Between those 2 extremes will be many
cases of doesn't-work-for-me/works-for-me.  Who'll be the final arbiter?

  Maybe we should start a "gentoo-ebuilds" mailing list to help regular
users learn the ins and outs of making ebuilds.  Once regular users run
a lot of their own ebuilds from their local overlays, then it would be
possible to do draconian pruning of the "official portage tree", without
so adversely affecting regular users.  This would fit in with the mantra
of Gentoo being about freedom of choice.

  E.g. I use Pale Moon, a fork of Firefox.  Currently, I have to build
as regular user, su, and copy the binary to /usr/local.  You can see
"Walter's excellent adventure" <G> as I learn the build process at...
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=10002

  I'd like to have Portage manage the process.  The ebuild from Firefox
should serve as a template, because they both use the same weird Mozilla
build setup.  The main change should be where the source is pulled from.

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltd...@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

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