On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 2:15 PM, hasufell <hasuf...@gentoo.org> wrote: > A team is clearly violating GLEP39 and you don't care:
When did I claim to not care? >> It may have one or many leads, and the leads are selected by the members of >> the project. This selection must occur at least once every 12 months, and >> may occur at any time. > > Instead we are getting tree inconsistency, because people start to > ignore the team. > > That is the worst that could happen. You clearly lack imagination. There are many things that could happen that are far worse than this. Gentoo not having anybody maintaining any games would be a worse outcome, for starters. What "punishment" would you deem appropriate for a team not following GLEP39? We could disband it, but we're not in any hurry to do so, because we're not convinced that doing this will make things any better. > I wonder why you were not so picky about the QA team back then. QA has authority over the entire tree. The games team does not. It is important that teams that have authority over the entire distro be selected in a way that makes them accountable. I don't think QA was doing anything horribly wrong, but having the Council confirm the QA lead helps to provide this accountability, since ultimately we are accountable. > > Maybe the solution is point 3 of GLEP39 under the rationale section: >> If the council does a lousy job handling global issues (or has no global >> vision), vote out the bums > Which would be why I've encouraged you to run for Council a few times now if you think you'll do better. I'm not going to apologize for being elected. If you really think that games.eclass is the hill we should all be dying on, you can put that in your manifesto. I think the urgent part of the crisis was dealt with (a conflict between individual maintainers and the games team, and a concern that people couldn't join the games team even if they wanted to). We can afford to take our time to deal with the rest, and it is best left to those who actually care about the issue. -- Rich