On Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:32:45 -0700
Greg KH <gre...@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 04:37:32AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 15:44:34 -0700
> > Greg KH <gre...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > I am not going to impose an additional burden on developers to get
> > > their patches into the stable kernel releases like this, sorry.
> > 
> > As I said, it's not your task; so, what you impose doesn't matter.
> 
> What do you mean by that?  I am the upstream stable kernel maintainer,
> as well as a subsystem maintainer.  I don't want to do the extra work
> of tagging all of my stable patches with this type of information, I
> can barely keep on top of the ones that I have to mark for stable as
> it is.
>
> > ...
>
> But I will argue that you can not annotate them "properly".  That is
> imposing more work on me, a subsystem maintainer, that I will not do.

Not just stable patches, but any patch; why delay till after the fact?

Tagging at the time of committing is just a few extra characters.

> > > Hint, the line between a bugfix and a security fix is not always
> > > obvious, or even known at all.
> > 
> > The developer knows; and if not, he can probably just mark it as a
> > fix.
> 
> Ok, so you have just now divided everything into "fix" or "feature".
> As the "feature" patches are quite obvious, everything else must be
> "fix". So why tag anything, your classification is already done for
> you.

If they are obvious, what's so hard abut tagging them?

No classification is done if there is no single command to obtain them.

> > > And what about all of the fixes I merge in, that _are_ really
> > > security fixes, yet we do not want to shout it out to the world
> > > at the moment?
> > 
> > For known security bugs, being aware of a fix earlier helps.
> 
> I don't understand what you mean here at all.

Neither do I understand what you mean by not shouting it out; so,
unless you have argumentation to not shout it out, I'm in the belief
that the faster one is able to apply a security fix, the more secure he
is as a result. If not shouting it out makes things more secure, then
please state me how and why; because it only gives attackers more time.

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With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

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