-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 08/06/2013 12:09 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > I'm replying the start of this thread, rather than picking a > single person to respond to. I DO want more brainstorming on ideas > for the naming of the package, and I think people need to cast a > wider net for naming ideas. > > I'm most certainly not planning to get rid of the package > whatsoever, many of my systems have complex configurations that are > made MUCH easier with oldnet than any other network configuration > system I have found. > > Goals of gentoo-oldnet: - Make oldnet functionality available to > users of other init systems [1][2] - If a package upstream is > forcing you towards systemd, you shouldn't have to lose other very > useful packages. - Seperate out development cycle from core OpenRC > - oldnet accounts for more than 30% of OpenRC bugs, and a large > fraction of the codebase. > > History of the oldnet name: - It's only called oldnet because when > Roy introduced 'newnet', what we consider to be 'oldnet' didn't > actually have a separate name. > > Various proposed names (in no specific order): - openrc-oldnet > (implies OpenRC, and has 'old'). - openrc-gentoo-net (implies > OpenRC) - gentoo-networking (does this mean newnet is here too?) - > gen-net (ditto) - netrc (conflicts) - opennetrc (implies OpenRC) - > 'net run control' (hard to search) - 'net run configuration' (hard > to search) - multi-net (conflicts) - netctl (conflicts) - netcfg > (conflicts) - netconf (conflicts) - enet (conflicts) - > posixsh-netconf (conflicts netconf) - nettool (conflicts) - > netcfgtool (conflicts) - posixnet (conflicts) - shnettool > > Naming goals: - Should describe what it does - Does NOT have a name > conflict as verified by Google. - Does NOT imply OpenRC. - Implying > Gentoo is fine, as it's where the package comes from. - Should drop > 'old' > > I think we should focus on the first goal the most: "oldnet is a > network configuring tool in pure POSIX shell" So we probably want > the substring 'net' somewhere in there. Beyond that, all > suggestions are welcome. > > [1] There was a failed GSOC project that I mentioned several years > ago, that was to support ALL openrc style init.d scripts on > Upstart, so oldnet would have worked implicitly. Unfortunately the > student didn't actually do ANY work. > > [2] The configuration itself ends up broken into two parts: - > directives that control the startup dependency tree. - directives > that control the actual configuration. The former will need to be > interoperable or exported to other init systems in some way > (hopefully dynamically), the latter can stay the same. >
Adding some proposals: - - altnetrc (as it is an alternative) - - galtnet (gentoo + alternative + network) - - altgnet (same, permuted) - - anetcfg (alternative + network + configuration) - - netposh (network + posix + shell) - - psnetconf (posix shell network configuration) - - maybe this one is inspirational, too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gannet Kind regards, Manuel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJSACk5XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci0uLi5Abm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4MDA1RERERkM0ODM2QkE4MEY3NzY0N0M1 OEZCQTM2QzhEOUQ2MzVDAAoJEFj7o2yNnWNcW3MP/iu+n+SPJ50tfrfWyrONXj8v m5mABJtK8DkX/KVdOpr1YWKv3DJVB4Nx6iGSh4PW/jdkVeRmIOJLwipMX3aqpCGi T0dxQrmTwYyJ1+F6oF9UJiFAtTQ1jhNDlBcc/AqajPwWuMOKHGiHeyrROqnUakiA /BeZ02a28TMy+stwMaiKT/4DvoIQX/chi5CLdiPOk1uKxnhC7yfSZvh+WFcYh7SW iW3LQrPO+fiHLrKxr7GlFQ86RTg2A0ySjrpbBYhsYSePkDuRZkAQ8hB1wzDayvek p6zLgHh7qaFREndnSnWhK2Pk7IZ/FqF+MFodW0j6Wv3BTxf0CDoDiWvkIrrrAXfe w2YfzBgQfOtPmARQegWQn2PhsM+F9jPCvA0r2GrSm92i6F9pQ7sHGjniL1Wj4nwA H7YYkAK6Vh23NM49evTragrIWAPtNFKAtyrMVHhGcMYy9gXWKQW1HgxW6N4Mxmv7 OO3SkzS5FNU7rrwbL9thGoRwLifTj9jzLIi3Kb2xcyC2Cxl99JxYq1tgwXYYDkEM Kywqug/sAe5RXk2dfqrVspkOZzppsZYo5ffa7ddPZJGqSdKIqgOqn0TuDh/v1sWZ sUol5N0hr56KjG6a3oiHdjxbqj9CiWNGO5n6/AhUbEIccyg5Ug2TTamfMDYqnXPj DCIE9KqaYxIQA30CyTen =4zrW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
