On 11/22/05, R Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 16:26 +0100, Marc Hildebrand wrote: > >> Chris Gianelloni wrote: > >> [..] > >>> Now, on the topic of the tarballs. > >>> > >>> Give me one example of something that you can do with a stage1 or stage2 > >>> tarball that you cannot with a stage3 tarball. > >>> > >> Answer: Download it in less than 10 minutes. > > > > I'd love to see you do the same with a stage1 tarball + all the > > distfiles you'll need to go from stage1 to stage3. > > What about someone on dialup who needs a rescue CD to boot into their system > after they've trashed the MBR? 88MiB vs 14MiB is a big difference in this > case. Erm, why would I need a stage 1 for a rescue cd? > > > In case you're wondering, it's more than the size of a stage3 tarball, > > by quite a bit. > > > >> The question of interest is: Will we keep changing things without a GLEP > >> that should *never* be touched without one? > > > > Since when is this GLEP material? > > Are you kidding? Since it's a fundamentally significant and highly visible > change in the workings of Gentoo. The three-stage build system is one of the > distinguishing characteristics of Gentoo, up there with source-based, install > from scratch, and highly customizable. Every review of Gentoo I've ever seen > at > least mentions it.
It removes no functionality, it adds no functionality. It simply changes it. How is this GLEP materiel? > > For the record, I don't think it matters if stage 1 goes away. Make stage 3 > the > Official and Supported Way of installing Gentoo, but provide stage 1 as a > minimal LiveCD/RescueCD option. Make a mention in the install documentation > along the lines of > > "It is also possible to do a full install of Gentoo using a minimal Rescue > LiveCD and a network connection. This method is depreciated and should only > be > used if circumstances prevent you using the Universal LiveCD. Note that we do > _not_ provide support for systems built using minimal installations, so you're > on your own." > > (linkity to a new separate stage 1 doc page) > > > > --de. > > -- > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
