Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 16:26 +0100, Marc Hildebrand wrote: >> Chris Gianelloni wrote: >> [..] >>> Now, on the topic of the tarballs. >>> >>> Give me one example of something that you can do with a stage1 or stage2 >>> tarball that you cannot with a stage3 tarball. >>> >> Answer: Download it in less than 10 minutes. > > I'd love to see you do the same with a stage1 tarball + all the > distfiles you'll need to go from stage1 to stage3.
What about someone on dialup who needs a rescue CD to boot into their system after they've trashed the MBR? 88MiB vs 14MiB is a big difference in this case. > In case you're wondering, it's more than the size of a stage3 tarball, > by quite a bit. > >> The question of interest is: Will we keep changing things without a GLEP >> that should *never* be touched without one? > > Since when is this GLEP material? Are you kidding? Since it's a fundamentally significant and highly visible change in the workings of Gentoo. The three-stage build system is one of the distinguishing characteristics of Gentoo, up there with source-based, install from scratch, and highly customizable. Every review of Gentoo I've ever seen at least mentions it. For the record, I don't think it matters if stage 1 goes away. Make stage 3 the Official and Supported Way of installing Gentoo, but provide stage 1 as a minimal LiveCD/RescueCD option. Make a mention in the install documentation along the lines of "It is also possible to do a full install of Gentoo using a minimal Rescue LiveCD and a network connection. This method is depreciated and should only be used if circumstances prevent you using the Universal LiveCD. Note that we do _not_ provide support for systems built using minimal installations, so you're on your own." (linkity to a new separate stage 1 doc page) --de. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
