Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
Vadim,

that is not the point. The procedure in itself is flawed.

You missed it too :) Existing procedure might be flawed in somebody's opinion, and I'm not arguing that it is ideal, but proposed procedure is even worse. It makes any release impossible: release packages can be made available only after the release itself is made. This makes me think that such procedure comes from the camp not taking SCM seriously.

Since the objective of the change to the process is to verify steps done by RM, the only viable procedure, in my view, is - (1) vote on SVN rev number (with packages made available), (2) tagging and building a release, (3) quick vote on resulting files. It's quick sine no actual software testing need to be performed, just verify that zip unzips and tar untars.

Vadim

There might be files now, but the procedure still has to be aligned to ASF wide guide lines.

Before you wonder/think about conspiracy theories: Yes, I brought the board (i.e. Henri) attention to this. It is necessary to change the commons release procedures and if you think that experiences of other PMCs (Velocity) don't count, let's try with a board opinion.

    Best regards
        Henning



Vadim Gritsenko schrieb:
Henri Yandell wrote:
3) Creating the actual files that are going to be released and voting
on them. There's pressure to go this way, but it's not the policy yet.

Vote has passed, so now actual files are made, and are available at the same location [1].

Vadim

[1] http://people.apache.org/~vgritsenko/regexp/


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