On 3/14/07, Vadim Gritsenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:

> You actually have to roll and sign a tarball/zip ball on which the vote
> happens. "Release-then-Vote" seems to be the only accepted way by the
> board these days;

Thankfully, neither events in velocity-private nor board feelings apply here.
Either Jakarta PMC votes for it or receives an resolution, before that happens,
existing procedures [1] stay.

There are (to my knowledge) three types of vote/release styles that
have been happening at the ASF.

1) A vote to do a release, with no sign of release files. This is how
this thread started and it's against ASF policy.

2) A vote on release-candidate files (or -dev in your case), and then
a release that is trusted to be a repeat of the process used. This is
currently a grey area policy-wise, and is where this release moved to
with the ~/vgritsenko/*-dev files.

3) Creating the actual files that are going to be released and voting
on them. There's pressure to go this way, but it's not the policy yet.

> personally I do prefer "Vote-then-Release" myself but
> that seems to be the way it is.

Release-then-Vote has some nice parts, the actual release is really
easy. That's nice if the release process has been painful as it means
I don't have to remember how to do the damn thing. Vote-then-Release
is nice in that you don't end up doing as many vote builds.

Other parts of the ASF seem to do a release where they make a build
and if it passes a vote it goes out, if it doesn't then they up the
bugfix number and do it again (I don't think anyone actually has a
build number, ie: 1.3.5.7). They also have an alpha/beta/GA thing that
the version number doesn't show. Very confusing as a user I think.

Mostly at this stage the mandate is that we have to be voting on
release files, not on "Hey, how about a release".

Hen

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