Hi Justin Awesome, my suggestion is to "link" these case studies in the Neutrality In Practice page. It would help the reader in "illustrating" the content.
Just my $0.01 :) Regards JB On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 5:59 PM Justin Mclean <[email protected]> wrote: > > HI, > > > To make the guide even more practical, I suggest adding a section > > featuring "fake examples" that illustrate common neutrality pitfalls. > > Alongside these examples, it would be beneficial to include practical > > "tools" or steps that communities can use to address or proactively > > prevent these issues. > > I may already be a little ahead of you. While these are not yet linked > directly from Neutrality in Practice, we already have a substantial set of > real examples in the Incubator training material. > > From the case studies at [1] we have multiple examples that illustrate > neutrality pitfalls as well as positive, healthy involvement from vendors, > for example: > - Case Study 2 on Apache Wave > - Case Study 3 on Apache Superset > - Case Study 5 on Apache Iceberg > - Case Study 6 on Apache Blur > - Case Study 7 on Apache MXNet > - Case Study 8 on Apache Airflow > - Case Study 9 on Apache Zipkin > - Case Study 15 on Apache Kafka > - Case Study 16 on Apache Pulsar > - Case Study 17 on Apache APISIX > > [2] expands on this with more details. > > These cover the full spectrum, from projects that struggled with > single-vendor dominance to ones where corporate contributors participated in > a genuinely community-led way. > > If I were doing a public presentation, it would probably be best to anonymise > these. To avoid singling out podlings, many of those patterns have already > been distilled into anonymised scenarios in Practising The Apache Way [3], > such as: > - The Off-List Decision > - The Conflicted PPMC > - The Unreliable Narrator > - Private Discussions and Missing Context > - The Employer-Dominated Podling > - Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum > - Brand and Governance Blur > - Branding Confusion > - Ready… or Rushed? > - The Graduation Surprise > - The Single-Maintainer Risk > - The Reluctant Leader > > And here [4] we have some interactive scenarios, including all of Practising > The Apache Way and some expanded scenarios on > - Brand and Governance Blur [5] > - The Employer-Dominated Podling [6] > > Several others address related issues of independence and power balance. > > And here [7] we have: > - Vendor Dominance Without Conflict > - All Work No Community > - One Podling Two Tribes > - Premature Graduation Push > > Kind Regards, > Justin > > 1. > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Incubator+Case+Studies > 2. > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Expanded+Incubator+Case+Studies > 3. > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Practicing+The+Apache+Way > 4. https://incubator.apache.org/training/scenarios/index.html > 5. https://incubator.apache.org/scenarios/BrandandGovernanceBlur.html > 6. https://incubator.apache.org/scenarios/TheEmployerDominatedPodling.html > 7 https://incubator.apache.org/training/scenarios.html > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
