The download page looks much better now. Nice work! I think others have made comments on some things which could be improved (most minor) before graduation, so I think you are close. I won't elaborate too much on those topics but just to say there are good reasons behind what might seem like lots of rules. I'll highlight just two and hopefully this resonates with what your mentors might have mentioned when you entered.
The ASF isn't against original creators being proud and passionate about what they invented/accomplished, but it wants the focus to be on all community members who should feel like they are all now inventing the next chapter of the project's evolution. New members' contributions should be respected to encourage them to stay and contribute more. I am not seeing any disrespect at all in your community, but wording everywhere matters. The ASF isn't against particular vendors being involved with or building upon ASF projects, indeed having vendors is a big win most of the time. But we've all seen single-person or single-vendor open source projects struggle at times. For the latter, folks who might be inclined to become more involved think to themselves that "the main vendor will handle it", or don't want to spend their spare time "helping a vendor's bottom line". The ASF strives for vendor-neutral projects, so a diverse community taking the project forward is what is desired. Again, I see that in your community, but perceptions from vendor websites are important too. My only other advice is to not forget newbies in your documentation. I quite enjoy diving into the papers you reference and knowing the details, but your next set of contributors might have a different background to me. I'd make it super simple for newbies to use your technology. I'll create an issue for the website repo with some thoughts. But this point isn't relevant to your graduation and can certainly come after. I look forward to your graduation! Cheers, Paul. On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 5:23 AM Craig Russell <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > I notice that the download page > https://wayang.apache.org/docs/start/download does not conform to > requirements. > > Each release on the page needs to clearly identify three links: > artifact > checksum > signature > > The artifact must use either dlcdn.apache.org <http://dlcdn.apache.org/> > or dyn/closer.lua to download the artifact from a mirror. > > The checksum and signature must refer to downloads.apache.org < > http://downloads.apache.org/> directly. > > I hope you can correct the download page prior to your graduation. > > Warm regards, > Craig > > > On Sep 10, 2025, at 12:19, Zoi Kaoudi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Dear IPMC Members, > > Apache Wayang (Incubating) [1] joined the Incubator in December 2020. > Since then, we have made significant progress towards maturing our project > and our community and we believe we are ready to graduate [2][3]. > Specifically: > > > > - We meet all requirements of the self-assessment maturity model [4]. > See here [5]. > > > > > > - Our project consists of 18 committers (including mentors), 11 being > PPMC members. > > > > > > - 44 people in total have contributed to our code base [6]. > > > > > > - We have a diverse community stemming from both academia and industry > across the world. > > > > > > - We have made 4 releases with 4 different release managers. > > > > > > - We have merged and closed 344 pull requests and resolved 136 issues > [6] > > > > > > - We have no pending naming/brand issues. > > > > > > - Our project is being used in research as well as by some HR and > consultancy companies in Denmark. > > For research-related artifacts you can see some recent publications: > > > > > > - Apache Wayang in Action: Enabling Data Systems Integration via a > Unified Data Analytics Framework. SIGMOD Conference Companion 2025: 35-3 > > > > - Apache Wayang: A Unified Data Analytics Framework. SIGMOD Rec. 52(3): > 30-35 (2023) > > > > We now open this thread to invite feedback from the IPMC. Please let us > know if you have any questions, concerns, or suggestions as we prepare for > > the formal graduation vote.[1] https://wayang.apache.org/ > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/7nqfgs2qwykbdpnljjnhmowxmz2mj4ng[3] > https://lists.apache.org/thread/28s7b6017rdrwosnnrg3ydkwt5z8jhhd > > [4] > https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > > [5] https://wayang.apache.org/docs/community/maturity > > [6] https://github.com/apache/incubator-wayang > > Best > > -- > > The Wayang team > > Craig L Russell > [email protected] > >
