Now that no objection to using MPMC as an abbreviation, I file this draft [1] so that we can improve the wording and start to spread the word.
[1] https://github.com/apache/www-site/pull/388 Interestingly, I noticed that the glossary already has a section: > Avoid referring to a member of a PMC as "a PMC", as it can cause confusion about > whether you are talking about the group or an individual. I'd send this notice to members@ later today to call for attentions; does it sound right? Best, tison. Jon Malkin <jmal...@apache.org> 于2024年7月8日周一 16:21写道： > I was initially thinking I liked the M suffix more in that it gives info on > the relevant body first, but the MP example swayed me. > > jon > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2024, 2:45 PM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 at 18:21, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > So, I agree with Greg (! I know) that there is real potential for > > confusion and we should try to fix it. > > > > > > Now what we need to do is to bikeshed the name. Either MPMC or PMCM > > captures the spirit. None of these conflict with any commonly used > > acronyms. Which of these works best with PPMC and IPMC? > > > > > > I personally prefer MPMC, MIPMC, and MPPMC. Because we want people to > > think of member first when writing the acronym. And anyone familiar with > > governing bodies knows MP for Member of Parliament, MEP for Member of > > European Parliament. > > > > +1 > > > > > Once we decide on the acronym, we need to socialize it by updating all > > of our "how it works" pages to mention and explain it. Then, when people > > misuse PMC, we can include a link to the explanation. > > > > Should also be mentioned in the Glossary [1], which should also have > > PPMC and IPMC added. > > > > However, we should remember that people outside the ASF also read > > mailing lists, so ideally use 'member' wherever possible, at least for > > the first mention. > > Yes, it's a bit more work for the author, but less effort for the > > readers (and there are generally multiple readers versus 1 author). > > > > Sebb > > [1] https://apache.org/foundation/glossary.html > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 8, 2024, at 03:37, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 10:47 PM Joe Witt <joew...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Greg > > > >> > > > >> It isnt wrong to correct improper usage particularly when there is a > > > >> specific case that caused actual confusion. > > > >> > > > > > > > > I appreciate the concept of "correct the usage when you see it", and > I > > > > *have* been doing that for several years now. Probably once a month > or > > two, > > > > over and over for years. The improper usage isn't stopping, so I'm > > raising > > > > the concern here. The wider community simply needs to understand the > > > > acronym means a committee, and stop using it for individuals. It is a > > > > simple definitional solution to this longstanding problem that I feel > > has > > > > not improved since my first whack-a-mole message to correct the > > improper > > > > usage. > > > > > > > > Cheers,. > > > > -g > > > > > > Craig L Russell > > > c...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > >
