I was initially thinking I liked the M suffix more in that it gives info on
the relevant body first, but the MP example swayed me.

  jon


On Mon, Jul 8, 2024, 2:45 PM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 at 18:21, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > So, I agree with Greg (! I know) that there is real potential for
> confusion and we should try to fix it.
> >
> > Now what we need to do is to bikeshed the name. Either MPMC or PMCM
> captures the spirit. None of these conflict with any commonly used
> acronyms. Which of these works best with PPMC and IPMC?
> >
> > I personally prefer MPMC, MIPMC, and MPPMC. Because we want people to
> think of member first when writing the acronym. And anyone familiar with
> governing bodies knows MP for Member of Parliament, MEP for Member of
> European Parliament.
>
> +1
>
> > Once we decide on the acronym, we need to socialize it by updating all
> of our "how it works" pages to mention and explain it. Then, when people
> misuse PMC, we can include a link to the explanation.
>
> Should also be mentioned in the Glossary [1], which should also have
> PPMC and IPMC added.
>
> However, we should remember that people outside the ASF also read
> mailing lists, so ideally use 'member' wherever possible, at least for
> the first mention.
> Yes, it's a bit more work for the author, but less effort for the
> readers (and there are generally multiple readers versus 1 author).
>
> Sebb
> [1] https://apache.org/foundation/glossary.html
> > Craig
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 8, 2024, at 03:37, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 10:47 PM Joe Witt <joew...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Greg
> > >>
> > >> It isnt wrong to correct improper usage particularly when there is a
> > >> specific case that caused actual confusion.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I appreciate the concept of "correct the usage when you see it", and I
> > > *have* been doing that for several years now. Probably once a month or
> two,
> > > over and over for years. The improper usage isn't stopping, so I'm
> raising
> > > the concern here. The wider community simply needs to understand the
> > > acronym means a committee, and stop using it for individuals. It is a
> > > simple definitional solution to this longstanding problem that I feel
> has
> > > not improved since my first whack-a-mole message to correct the
> improper
> > > usage.
> > >
> > > Cheers,.
> > > -g
> >
> > Craig L Russell
> > c...@apache.org
> >
> >
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