Hi
> 在 2019年6月19日,下午2:12,Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> 写道: > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 7:42 PM Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Hi David and Greg, >> > >>> On Jun 18, 2019, at 5:39 PM, Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> >> wrote: >> >> ... > >>> BTW in all previous cases of podlings exiting I could find, a vote was >> taken (see below links and there’s more I’ve not listed). In most cases >> this was to retire rather than returning/going elsewhere, so the situation >> not exactly the same, but that’s a data point all the same. >> > > That doesn't justify requiring a [VOTE]. > > >> If anyone thinks a VOTE is not necessary then please discuss why on >> another thread. >> > > I merely added a parenthetical to my vote. As did David. > > But sure. Let's talk about the overzealous bureaucracy of the IPMC. > > Think about the result of this purported [VOTE]. Two answers: > > 1) yes, you are free to leave > 2) no, you are NOT free to leave > > What does (2) mean? That we hold the community's repositories hostage? That > we don't return them? On what right? On what *ethical* right? > > The VOTE was ridiculous. It can only come out "Yes", so why? Yes. +1 That is exact reason I agree the vote is necessary. This is leave, rather than no community and retire to incubator `attic`. Anyway, Thanks for providing helps on JIRA tickets, and the repositories have back to OpenZipkin. > > The *Zipkin community* owns those repositories. Not Apache or the IPMC. Let > the community take them where they want. > > If a podling graduates, then the community and its resources are recognized > by the Board as an official part of the Foundation. Unless/until then, we > should be very careful about spurious claims of ownership. > > Years back, we talked about not wanting to accept "hostile forks" of other > projects as podlings. We did not want to be party to such a calamity. By > voting "no" in this case, the IPMC would be the one *creating* the hostile > fork. Not merely accepting it as a podling. Talk about bad karma. > > Regards, > -g Sheng Wu Apache Skywalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org