On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 9:30 PM John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 9:27 PM Henri Yandell <bay...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Reverted to "Copyright Contributors"?
>>
>>
> Yes, for any file that we don't have full agreement (ICLA on file) we
> can't remove the copyright claim that already exists.  Us receiving an ICLA
> is what allows us to say "Licensed to the ASF" (it's in the ICLA).
>
> It's not a big deal, since its Apache licensed, we just have to be careful
> we're removing someone's pre-existing claim.
>

I'll give a more concrete example.

Let's say I imported this file into an ASF repo
https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-framework/blob/v5.0.0.RC3/spring-core/src/main/java/org/springframework/util/StringUtils.java

I wouldn't change the header to say licensed to the ASF.  None of the
contributors have signed ICLAs.  The file header would remain in tact.  I
would also have to carry their notice file around
https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-framework/blob/v5.0.0.RC3/src/docs/dist/notice.txt
(at
least I'm assuming this is their NOTICE file, I can't find any others
around)

John



>
>
>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 18:15 John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Ok, so here's my +1 to release, with the following notes:
>> >
>> > - The NOTICE file is wrong.  Unless the dependencies listed have
>> explicit
>> > notice requirements (they don't seem to) nothing needs to be added to
>> the
>> > NOTICE file.
>> > - The source headers should be reverted in any areas where not all
>> > contributors to that file have signed ICLAs, otherwise we need some
>> kind of
>> > agreement they are OK with moving to NOTICE file (which is how this has
>> > been handled in the past).
>> >
>> > Please create JIRAs to track these.
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 9:09 PM Henri Yandell <bay...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I believe all the major contributors were ICLA'd, and I disagree that
>> all
>> > > contributors need to SGA/ICLA; we don't do that for an existing
>> project.
>> > >
>> > > We need to do the check to see how the footprint of contributions for
>> the
>> > > largest contributor without an ICLA is (apologies for the horrible
>> > wording
>> > > there). There are over 400 contributors, but (quickly eyeballing) most
>> > are
>> > > covered by ICLA or small contributions. Note that we also have clause
>> 5
>> > of
>> > > Apache 2.0 at play for historical contributions here.
>> > >
>> > > To John's point on source headers; the previous source headers said
>> > > "Copyright <year> by Contributors".
>> > >
>> > > Hen
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 11:01 Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Henri,
>> > > >
>> > > > If a project was developed outside Apache then everyone who
>> contributed
>> > > to
>> > > > the project has to have an ICLA on file or file a Software Grant as
>> > part
>> > > of
>> > > > IP Clearance.
>> > > >
>> > > > It's not sufficient that the code has always been under the ASL 2.0.
>> > > >
>> > > > Are there any contributors to the project before it came to the
>> > incubator
>> > > > who are not now committers?
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > Craig
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Aug 29, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Henri Yandell <bay...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Apologies - I missed that mentors hadn't voted on the podling
>> > release.
>> > > > Will
>> > > > > review tonight; hopefully their mentors can do similar.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > There's no reason for an SGA here (and who would even sign it?).
>> Code
>> > > has
>> > > > > been apache 2.0 since the initial commit on GitHub.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 06:45 John D. Ament <
>> johndam...@apache.org>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Dominic,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> One question, from looking a second time.  Was MXNet always
>> Apache
>> > > > Licensed
>> > > > >> (prior to coming to the ASF)?
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> John
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:39 AM Dominic Divakaruni <
>> > > > >> dominic.divakar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>> Thanks for the reply, John. None of the mentors have voted so
>> far.
>> > > > >>> Henri, Suneel, Marcus, Sebastian, can you gents please review
>> and
>> > > vote?
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Also, Henri, didn't you mention that there was an SGA for this
>> > > project?
>> > > > >>> Sorry if I don't recollect the exact details on the SGA bit.
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Dom
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 5:27 AM, John D. Ament <
>> > > johndam...@apache.org>
>> > > > >>> wrote:
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>> Non pmc members can vote non-binding.  Usually mentors review
>> > > > releases.
>> > > > >>>> Have any of your mentors reviewed and voted on it?  Due to
>> there
>> > > being
>> > > > >> no
>> > > > >>>> SGA its a harder release to review.  I also need to cross check
>> > > ICLAs
>> > > > >> and
>> > > > >>>> files that have changed license.
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> On Aug 29, 2017 8:13 AM, "Dominic Divakaruni" <
>> > > > >>>> dominic.divakar...@gmail.com>
>> > > > >>>> wrote:
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>>> Can this vote pass without the three +1's from the PMC? Can
>> the
>> > > > >>>> committers
>> > > > >>>>> for this project provide binding votes on general@ to weigh
>> in
>> > on
>> > > > >> this
>> > > > >>>>> release?
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:47 PM, Meghna Baijal <
>> > > > >>>> meghnabaijal2...@gmail.com
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> wrote:
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>> Hi All,
>> > > > >>>>>> This is a reminder that the vote to release MXNet
>> (incubating)
>> > > > >> 0.11.0
>> > > > >>>> is
>> > > > >>>>>> still open.
>> > > > >>>>>> The vote will close on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8.04 PM UTC.
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>> [ ] +1 Release this package as 0.1.0
>> > > > >>>>>> [ ] +0 no opinion
>> > > > >>>>>> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because…
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>> Thanks,
>> > > > >>>>>> Meghna
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> On Aug 25, 2017, at 1:04 PM, Meghna Baijal <
>> > > > >>>> meghnabaijal2...@gmail.com
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> Hi all
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> This is a call for a releasing Apache MXNet (incubating)
>> > 0.11.0,
>> > > > >>>>> release
>> > > > >>>>>>> candidate 3.
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> Apache MXNet community has voted and approved the release.
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> Vote thread:
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2695a598ae0622484d4c886dc5b2ea
>> > > > >>>>>> 823c306ca4ebef66accec6ee76@%3Cdev.mxnet.apache.org%3E <
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2695a598ae0622484d4c886dc5b2ea
>> > > > >>>>>> 823c306ca4ebef66accec6ee76@%3Cdev.mxnet.apache.org%3E>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> Result thread:
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d860c49194ec71c5c83ac0fa68df13
>> > > > >>>>>> 050dbfada4ff7052be3401fc1b@%3Cdev.mxnet.apache.org%3E <
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d860c49194ec71c5c83ac0fa68df13
>> > > > >>>>>> 050dbfada4ff7052be3401fc1b@%3Cdev.mxnet.apache.org%3E>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> The source tarball, including signatures, digests, etc. can
>> be
>> > > > >>> found
>> > > > >>>>> at:
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/mxnet/0.11.0.rc3/
>> > > > >>> <
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/mxnet/0.11.0.rc3/
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> The release tag can be found here:
>> > > > >>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/tree/0.11.0.rc3 <
>> > > > >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/tree/0.11.0.rc3>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> The release hash is ba6413d29769075dd883ec5fe6eb24afc98fb3fd
>> > and
>> > > > >>> can
>> > > > >>>>> be
>> > > > >>>>>> found here:
>> > > > >>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/commit/
>> > > > >>>>>> ba6413d29769075dd883ec5fe6eb24afc98fb3fd <
>> > > > >> https://github.com/apache/
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> incubator-mxnet/commit/ba6413d29769075dd883ec5fe6eb24afc98fb3fd>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> Release artifacts are signed with the following key:
>> > > > >>>>>>> AA3EBCC3E65A768AE3D2A64B8EF47B8720E8C549
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> KEY files are available here:
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/mxnet/0.11.0.rc3/
>> > > > >>> <
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/mxnet/0.11.0.rc3/
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> For information about the contents of this release, see:
>> > > > >>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/v0.
>> > > > >>>>>> 11.0+Release+Notes+-+MXNet+v0.11+Release+Candidate <
>> > > > >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/v0.
>> > > > >>>>>> 11.0+Release+Notes+-+MXNet+v0.11+Release+Candidate>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> [ ] +1 Release this package as 0.1.0
>> > > > >>>>>>> [ ] +0 no opinion
>> > > > >>>>>>> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> Thanks.
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> --
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> Dominic Divakaruni
>> > > > >>>>> 206.475.9200 <(206)%20475-9200> <(206)%20475-9200>
>> <(206)%20475-9200> Cell
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> --
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Dominic Divakaruni
>> > > > >>> 206.475.9200 <(206)%20475-9200> <(206)%20475-9200>
>> <(206)%20475-9200> Cell
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > > Craig L Russell
>> > > > Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>> > > > c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
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