Sorry about that. Fixed. Thanks for reviewing the output! - Sam Ruby
On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Adina Crainiceanu <ad...@usna.edu> wrote: > John, > > I'm a committer and PPMC member for Rya > > Adina > > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 12:23 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> Adina, >> >> What podling are you on? >> >> John >> >> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 10:50 AM Adina Crainiceanu <ad...@usna.edu> wrote: >> >> > I just wanted to mention that in the "Incubator committers that are not >> on >> > the IPMC and are not listed as a committer of any podling" I noticed >> > multiple names (myself included - Adina Crainiceanu), who are committers >> on >> > active podlings and are still included in the list. For example, I am a >> > committer and PPMC member for Apache Rya (incubating). Not sure how the >> > list was generated, but not only committers of already graduated podlings >> > are on the list, but also committers of active podlings. Maybe because >> > those people are part of the PPMC of a podling and therefore they are >> > implicit committers, but somehow they were not considered committers for >> > the purpose of generating the list. (I believe that the assumption that >> > all PPMC members are commiters is/should be true) >> > >> > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> >> wrote: >> > >> > > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 7:58 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> >> > > wrote: >> > > > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 5:58 AM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> On 11 June 2017 at 00:18, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: >> > > >> > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net >> > >> > > >> wrote: >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> For that reason, I'd like to make a simplifying assumption: that >> > all >> > > >> mentors >> > > >> >> are PPMC members, and all PPMC members are committers. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Existing records that violate one or more assumptions: >> > > >> > https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/podling-crosscheck >> > > >> >> > > >> "Podling Committers that are not Incubator committers" >> > > >> AFAIK, that should not happen. >> > > >> Probably mostly existing ASF committers being added to podlings >> > > directly. >> > > >> New committers should be added to Incubator + podling by the >> existing >> > > >> processes. >> > > >> I think it would make sense to just add them to the Incubator >> > > >> committer list so they have the appropriate karma. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Agreed. I appreciate the concise report. We should plan to add >> these >> > > > individuals. >> > > >> > > You should be able to add them from the ppmc page. >> > > >> > > >> "Incubator committers that are not on the IPMC and are not listed >> as a >> > > >> committer of any podling" >> > > >> Most likely they were on podlings that are no longer active. >> > > >> I don't think any cleanup of the list is done when podlings exit >> > > >> incubation, so this list will continue growing. >> > > >> Does that matter? >> > > >> >> > > > I was thinking about this. I think I mis-stated the behavior of >> adding >> > > > someone to the PPMC. There is no requirement to remove them from >> > > > incubator. That's actually how I got started, my podling already >> > > graduated >> > > > but I still had my incubator commit bit. >> > > >> > > Some of that list is because not all of the podling rosters have been >> > > updated. >> > > >> > > But if the plan is to have a monotonically increasing list of people >> > > who ever were associated with a podling at any point in the past, it >> > > may make sense to change things so that all committers have access to >> > > incubator resources and do away with this list. >> > > >> > > > The list that does worry me is the list of mentors not on the IPMC. >> I >> > > feel >> > > > like that requires a bit more research to find out what happened but >> > > unless >> > > > those people are members they're probably going to be removed from >> > their >> > > > mentor roles. What do others think? >> > > >> > > The individuals should probably be evaluated separately. As Sebb >> > > points out, most are ASF members, and therefore are one ask away from >> > > being added to the IPMC: >> > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/pmc.html#joining >> > > >> > > - Sam Ruby >> > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dr. Adina Crainiceanu >> > Associate Professor, Computer Science Department >> > United States Naval Academy >> > 410-293-6822 <(410)%20293-6822> >> > ad...@usna.edu >> > http://www.usna.edu/Users/cs/adina/ >> > >> > > > > -- > Dr. Adina Crainiceanu > Associate Professor, Computer Science Department > United States Naval Academy > 410-293-6822 > ad...@usna.edu > http://www.usna.edu/Users/cs/adina/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
