John, I'm a committer and PPMC member for Rya
Adina On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 12:23 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > Adina, > > What podling are you on? > > John > > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 10:50 AM Adina Crainiceanu <ad...@usna.edu> wrote: > > > I just wanted to mention that in the "Incubator committers that are not > on > > the IPMC and are not listed as a committer of any podling" I noticed > > multiple names (myself included - Adina Crainiceanu), who are committers > on > > active podlings and are still included in the list. For example, I am a > > committer and PPMC member for Apache Rya (incubating). Not sure how the > > list was generated, but not only committers of already graduated podlings > > are on the list, but also committers of active podlings. Maybe because > > those people are part of the PPMC of a podling and therefore they are > > implicit committers, but somehow they were not considered committers for > > the purpose of generating the list. (I believe that the assumption that > > all PPMC members are commiters is/should be true) > > > > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> > wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 7:58 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 5:58 AM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> On 11 June 2017 at 00:18, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: > > > >> > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> >> > > > >> >> For that reason, I'd like to make a simplifying assumption: that > > all > > > >> mentors > > > >> >> are PPMC members, and all PPMC members are committers. > > > >> > > > > >> > Existing records that violate one or more assumptions: > > > >> > https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/podling-crosscheck > > > >> > > > >> "Podling Committers that are not Incubator committers" > > > >> AFAIK, that should not happen. > > > >> Probably mostly existing ASF committers being added to podlings > > > directly. > > > >> New committers should be added to Incubator + podling by the > existing > > > >> processes. > > > >> I think it would make sense to just add them to the Incubator > > > >> committer list so they have the appropriate karma. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Agreed. I appreciate the concise report. We should plan to add > these > > > > individuals. > > > > > > You should be able to add them from the ppmc page. > > > > > > >> "Incubator committers that are not on the IPMC and are not listed > as a > > > >> committer of any podling" > > > >> Most likely they were on podlings that are no longer active. > > > >> I don't think any cleanup of the list is done when podlings exit > > > >> incubation, so this list will continue growing. > > > >> Does that matter? > > > >> > > > > I was thinking about this. I think I mis-stated the behavior of > adding > > > > someone to the PPMC. There is no requirement to remove them from > > > > incubator. That's actually how I got started, my podling already > > > graduated > > > > but I still had my incubator commit bit. > > > > > > Some of that list is because not all of the podling rosters have been > > > updated. > > > > > > But if the plan is to have a monotonically increasing list of people > > > who ever were associated with a podling at any point in the past, it > > > may make sense to change things so that all committers have access to > > > incubator resources and do away with this list. > > > > > > > The list that does worry me is the list of mentors not on the IPMC. > I > > > feel > > > > like that requires a bit more research to find out what happened but > > > unless > > > > those people are members they're probably going to be removed from > > their > > > > mentor roles. What do others think? > > > > > > The individuals should probably be evaluated separately. As Sebb > > > points out, most are ASF members, and therefore are one ask away from > > > being added to the IPMC: > > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/pmc.html#joining > > > > > > - Sam Ruby > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Dr. Adina Crainiceanu > > Associate Professor, Computer Science Department > > United States Naval Academy > > 410-293-6822 <(410)%20293-6822> > > ad...@usna.edu > > http://www.usna.edu/Users/cs/adina/ > > > -- Dr. Adina Crainiceanu Associate Professor, Computer Science Department United States Naval Academy 410-293-6822 ad...@usna.edu http://www.usna.edu/Users/cs/adina/
