Right, to be 100% clear, the part that I'm saying should be removed is more around the "appointment" side not the role during proposal. Though I will say with the right mentors on board, seeing activity during the proposal process is not uncommon and usually a good thing.
I actually missed the comma there thinking it was a period. ;-) John On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 10:01 AM Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> wrote: > I think practically mentors volunteer and the podling accept, IPMC does not > really need to decide on that. In the rare cases of many mentor volunteers > it may be useful for the Incubator community to guide the podling on which > mentors would be more beneficial, but then for the podling to pick rather > than IPMC (who?) to "appoint". In that sense IPMC just rubber stamp the > mentor list. > > The point of the paragraph is that it is the Champion and Incubator > community overall that guides at the proposal stage, not particularly the > nominee mentors (although usually now the champion is also one of the > mentors). So we can shorten the paragraph to just: > > > Mentors have no formal role until the proposal is accepted. > > And if a mentor comes along after acceptance, then I think it is enough for > the podling to accept that person, as long as they are on IPMC there is no > need to do any formal appointment beyond updating the right files. (an ASF > Member may ask to join IPMC first). > > On 25 Nov 2016 2:05 pm, "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > > > All, > > > > I was wondering if someone could help me clarify this block of text. > This > > is the section I believe is at an issue: > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html#template-mentors > > > > *It is common for additional Mentors to volunteer their services during > the > > development of the proposal. The number of Mentors for a Podling is > limited > > only by the energy and interest of those eligible to Mentor. Three > Mentors > > gives a quorum and allows a Podling more autonomy. The current consensus > is > > that three or more Mentors makes the incubation process run more > smoothly.* > > > > *Note that since Mentors are appointed by the Incubator PMC at the end of > > the acceptance process, they have no formal role until the proposal is > > accepted. But informal enthusiasm from nominee Mentors is taken as a good > > sign.* > > > > In the first paragraph, we're saying that Mentors volunteer. But the > > second paragraph states that they are appointed by the IPMC. I'm > inclined > > to just remove that first sentence from the proposal guide. Anyone > else's > > thoughts? > > > > John > > >
