I think practically mentors volunteer and the podling accept, IPMC does not really need to decide on that. In the rare cases of many mentor volunteers it may be useful for the Incubator community to guide the podling on which mentors would be more beneficial, but then for the podling to pick rather than IPMC (who?) to "appoint". In that sense IPMC just rubber stamp the mentor list.
The point of the paragraph is that it is the Champion and Incubator community overall that guides at the proposal stage, not particularly the nominee mentors (although usually now the champion is also one of the mentors). So we can shorten the paragraph to just: > Mentors have no formal role until the proposal is accepted. And if a mentor comes along after acceptance, then I think it is enough for the podling to accept that person, as long as they are on IPMC there is no need to do any formal appointment beyond updating the right files. (an ASF Member may ask to join IPMC first). On 25 Nov 2016 2:05 pm, "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > All, > > I was wondering if someone could help me clarify this block of text. This > is the section I believe is at an issue: > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html#template-mentors > > *It is common for additional Mentors to volunteer their services during the > development of the proposal. The number of Mentors for a Podling is limited > only by the energy and interest of those eligible to Mentor. Three Mentors > gives a quorum and allows a Podling more autonomy. The current consensus is > that three or more Mentors makes the incubation process run more smoothly.* > > *Note that since Mentors are appointed by the Incubator PMC at the end of > the acceptance process, they have no formal role until the proposal is > accepted. But informal enthusiasm from nominee Mentors is taken as a good > sign.* > > In the first paragraph, we're saying that Mentors volunteer. But the > second paragraph states that they are appointed by the IPMC. I'm inclined > to just remove that first sentence from the proposal guide. Anyone else's > thoughts? > > John >