Also, could you please expound on what you are reliant on St.Ack on? On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 8:34 PM Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
> Help me understand, why is this a mentor issue and not IPMC one? > > Thanks, > Roman. > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Atanu Mishra <atanu.mis...@esgyn.com> > wrote: > > Response below. > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> > > wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:05 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >> > Dave, > >> > > >> > For some reason, I feel like I commented on that thread as well, but > >> don't > >> > see it, so I'm either thinking of something else or its inlined > somewhere > >> > that I didn't see (e.g. the emails back and forth with Pierre). > >> > > >> > The question to always ask with company alliances is if someone would > >> > contribute to the project if they weren't paid by $dayjob to do so. > The > >> > beauty of the Apache Way is by focusing on individuals, this problem > >> > becomes more apparent. Of the new contributors you added that work > for > >> > Esgyn, which of them would realistically contribute to Trafodion if > they > >> > weren't employed by Esgyn? Likewise, if Esgyn stopped building a > product > >> > on top of Trafodion, would those contributors remain? > >> > > >> > In addition, with such tight company affiliation, does the PMC > represent > >> a > >> > reasonable cross section so that they can assert their iP claims? For > >> > example, based on looking at the usage of Trafodion vs Apache > Trafodion > >> on > >> > https://esgyn.com/ would the PMC send an email to some > representative of > >> > Esgyn asking them to correct the branding errors? (To be clear, a > cursory > >> > look around the website only gives me one minor error, nothing crazy > like > >> > we've seen with other projects, you've done a great job keeping > branding > >> in > >> > line with guidelines on both the ASF site and here) > >> > > >> > These are the reasons, at least from my POV, why community diversity > is > >> > important. To be honest, I don't see any of the typical warning > signs I > >> > see with company backed ASF projects that I see here. Its clear that > its > >> > ASF developed first. I see great communication and collaboration via > >> email > >> > (heck, I wish my $dayjob communicated this well via email). > >> > > >> > So to answer your question, no, I don't think Trafodion needs more > >> > mentors. Maybe you need some help with the graduation process, but > from > >> my > >> > POV you seem like TLP material to me. > >> > >> +1 to the above. I honestly still don't understand what is the problem > >> with Trafodion > >> (if any) that piling mentors up would be a good solution to. > >> > > > > An extract from the original email should help answer that question. We > > are very dependent on one mentor (St.Ack) at the moment. > > > >> We have done two releases now, learning many lessons from that > > experience. > >> But we need more help checking out our release candidates. Our current > >> mentors have been pressed for time. (We started with five, two have > since > >> resigned due to other obligations.) > > > > Atanu > > > > -- > > __________ > > *Atanu Mishra* > > *Esgyn Corporation* > > Milpitas, CA 95035 > > m: +1.408.219.9765 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
