Response below. On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:05 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > wrote: > > Dave, > > > > For some reason, I feel like I commented on that thread as well, but > don't > > see it, so I'm either thinking of something else or its inlined somewhere > > that I didn't see (e.g. the emails back and forth with Pierre). > > > > The question to always ask with company alliances is if someone would > > contribute to the project if they weren't paid by $dayjob to do so. The > > beauty of the Apache Way is by focusing on individuals, this problem > > becomes more apparent. Of the new contributors you added that work for > > Esgyn, which of them would realistically contribute to Trafodion if they > > weren't employed by Esgyn? Likewise, if Esgyn stopped building a product > > on top of Trafodion, would those contributors remain? > > > > In addition, with such tight company affiliation, does the PMC represent > a > > reasonable cross section so that they can assert their iP claims? For > > example, based on looking at the usage of Trafodion vs Apache Trafodion > on > > https://esgyn.com/ would the PMC send an email to some representative of > > Esgyn asking them to correct the branding errors? (To be clear, a cursory > > look around the website only gives me one minor error, nothing crazy like > > we've seen with other projects, you've done a great job keeping branding > in > > line with guidelines on both the ASF site and here) > > > > These are the reasons, at least from my POV, why community diversity is > > important. To be honest, I don't see any of the typical warning signs I > > see with company backed ASF projects that I see here. Its clear that its > > ASF developed first. I see great communication and collaboration via > email > > (heck, I wish my $dayjob communicated this well via email). > > > > So to answer your question, no, I don't think Trafodion needs more > > mentors. Maybe you need some help with the graduation process, but from > my > > POV you seem like TLP material to me. > > +1 to the above. I honestly still don't understand what is the problem > with Trafodion > (if any) that piling mentors up would be a good solution to. > An extract from the original email should help answer that question. We are very dependent on one mentor (St.Ack) at the moment. > We have done two releases now, learning many lessons from that experience. > But we need more help checking out our release candidates. Our current > mentors have been pressed for time. (We started with five, two have since > resigned due to other obligations.) Atanu -- __________ *Atanu Mishra* *Esgyn Corporation* Milpitas, CA 95035 m: +1.408.219.9765
