Would the new pony mail UI help? https://lists.apache.org/list.html?mynewt.apache.org
John On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 4:03 PM James Pace <p...@runtime.io> wrote: > Hello. I am participating in the Apache Mynewt project and want to pose a > quick question that might have been brought up previously… Are there any > other ASF-supported alternatives to the current mail archive UI? If there’s > a solution that’s been proposed, we’re keen to here; if not, we would be > keen to explore options. > > thanks, pace > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: James Pace <p...@runtime.io> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] A users@ mailing list for Apache Mynewt > > Date: May 20, 2016 at 8:04:36 PDT > > To: d...@mynewt.incubator.apache.org > > > > I agree 100% on the mail archive. If we could tee this off to a better > interface (more intuitive threading and search) and maintain sync, that > would help the community a lot. > > > > I am also a newbie to the ASF, but wondering if someone in the > infrastructure or incubator group might have some thoughts or heard this > before. We can inquire at general@incubator.apache.org, which I’ll do. > > > > Good to see you here, David. > > > > —pace > > > > On May 20, 2016, at 7:55, David G. Simmons <santa...@mac.com> wrote: > > > >> As a n00b, I’ll chime in here with my experience so far … Just my > $0.02, so take it as you will. I’ve been involved in a few ‘new’ > product/protocol/platform development efforts over the years though. > >> > >> As a new user and (potential) developer, the lack of a ‘user’ list was > (as another has previously stated) a bit intimidating. I’m not (yet) a > mynewt developer, just a hacker trying to get stuff working. I finally bit > the bullet and posted to the dev list and was obviously pleasantly > surprised by both the speed and friendliness of the response. There is a > LOT of value in having the folks actually developing the system see all the > questions from the users. I know it can be a distraction from the ‘real’ > work to get silly questions from new users, but in my experience, the > success of a platform is in many ways highly dependent on the experience of > new users. If someone new can’t start using the platform, then you wont’ > have new users, and … > >> > >> I found the archives, and attempted to go through them as best I could > in order to find answers to questions I was having initially. I figured > most of them out on my own, from repeated trips through the docs, etc., but > the email archives could be much more helpful. The problem is that the mail > archives are … so 1998. Not searchable, only navigable by year/month, etc. > Having a proper interface to the mail archives would make them much more > useful to users. Even the mail-archive.com interface — which has search — > would work nicely. Having a forum — along the lines of phpBB2, though those > are notoriously hard to keep spammers out of — with an email-to-forum > gateway would also be helpful. > >> > >> Back to hacking … > >> > >> dg > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> On May 19, 2016, at 4:42 PM, James Pace <p...@runtime.io> wrote: > >>> > >>> I’d personally like to see these separated. Many of the comments that > are coming in are routine (though very informative) and do not inform the > design or development of Apache Mynewt. > >>> > >>> And, besides, it is likely that you will have “user” and “dev” > sourced to the same mailbox or mail filter! > >>> > >>> On May 19, 2016, at 11:12, p...@wrada.com wrote: > >>> > >>>> I¹d prefer to keep them together for now. As this is new, I think > that > >>>> developers are going to learn a lot from the users issues or > questions, > >>>> and vice versa. I agree that this will get too much at some point, > but > >>>> I¹m really getting a lot from seeing the user and developer issues > >>>> together. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 5/19/16, 11:08 AM, "aditi hilbert" <ad...@runtime.io> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> With Mynewt attracting an increasing number of both users and > developers > >>>>> of various levels, it might make practical sense to have a users@ > mailing > >>>>> list separate from dev@ mailing list. That way support questions > about > >>>>> product usage, asks, needs etc can be separated from > >>>>> developer/design/architecture discussions. Of course, there has to be > >>>>> communication between the two groups to build truly useful and usable > >>>>> features, but we can bring some organization to it with the separate > >>>>> mailing lists. Please comment on the suggestion. > >>>>> > >>>>> Let¹s keep this thread open through the weekend to gauge the general > >>>>> response. > >>>>> > >>>>> thanks, > >>>>> aditi > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> David G. Simmons > >> (919) 534-5099 > >> Web • Blog • Linkedin • Twitter • GitHub > >> /** Message digitally signed for security and authenticity. > >> * If you cannot read the PGP.sig attachment, please go to > >> * http://www.gnupg.com/ Secure your email!!! > >> * Public key available at keyserver.pgp.com > >> **/ > >> ♺ This email uses 100% recycled electrons. Don't blow it by printing! > >> > >> There are only 2 hard things in computer science: Cache invalidation, > naming things, and off-by-one errors. > >> > >> > > > >
