Hello. I am participating in the Apache Mynewt project and want to pose a quick question that might have been brought up previously… Are there any other ASF-supported alternatives to the current mail archive UI? If there’s a solution that’s been proposed, we’re keen to here; if not, we would be keen to explore options.
thanks, pace Begin forwarded message: > From: James Pace <p...@runtime.io> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] A users@ mailing list for Apache Mynewt > Date: May 20, 2016 at 8:04:36 PDT > To: d...@mynewt.incubator.apache.org > > I agree 100% on the mail archive. If we could tee this off to a better > interface (more intuitive threading and search) and maintain sync, that would > help the community a lot. > > I am also a newbie to the ASF, but wondering if someone in the infrastructure > or incubator group might have some thoughts or heard this before. We can > inquire at general@incubator.apache.org, which I’ll do. > > Good to see you here, David. > > —pace > > On May 20, 2016, at 7:55, David G. Simmons <santa...@mac.com> wrote: > >> As a n00b, I’ll chime in here with my experience so far … Just my $0.02, so >> take it as you will. I’ve been involved in a few ‘new’ >> product/protocol/platform development efforts over the years though. >> >> As a new user and (potential) developer, the lack of a ‘user’ list was (as >> another has previously stated) a bit intimidating. I’m not (yet) a mynewt >> developer, just a hacker trying to get stuff working. I finally bit the >> bullet and posted to the dev list and was obviously pleasantly surprised by >> both the speed and friendliness of the response. There is a LOT of value in >> having the folks actually developing the system see all the questions from >> the users. I know it can be a distraction from the ‘real’ work to get silly >> questions from new users, but in my experience, the success of a platform is >> in many ways highly dependent on the experience of new users. If someone new >> can’t start using the platform, then you wont’ have new users, and … >> >> I found the archives, and attempted to go through them as best I could in >> order to find answers to questions I was having initially. I figured most of >> them out on my own, from repeated trips through the docs, etc., but the >> email archives could be much more helpful. The problem is that the mail >> archives are … so 1998. Not searchable, only navigable by year/month, etc. >> Having a proper interface to the mail archives would make them much more >> useful to users. Even the mail-archive.com interface — which has search — >> would work nicely. Having a forum — along the lines of phpBB2, though those >> are notoriously hard to keep spammers out of — with an email-to-forum >> gateway would also be helpful. >> >> Back to hacking … >> >> dg >> >> >> >> >>> On May 19, 2016, at 4:42 PM, James Pace <p...@runtime.io> wrote: >>> >>> I’d personally like to see these separated. Many of the comments that are >>> coming in are routine (though very informative) and do not inform the >>> design or development of Apache Mynewt. >>> >>> And, besides, it is likely that you will have “user” and “dev” sourced to >>> the same mailbox or mail filter! >>> >>> On May 19, 2016, at 11:12, p...@wrada.com wrote: >>> >>>> I¹d prefer to keep them together for now. As this is new, I think that >>>> developers are going to learn a lot from the users issues or questions, >>>> and vice versa. I agree that this will get too much at some point, but >>>> I¹m really getting a lot from seeing the user and developer issues >>>> together. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5/19/16, 11:08 AM, "aditi hilbert" <ad...@runtime.io> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> With Mynewt attracting an increasing number of both users and developers >>>>> of various levels, it might make practical sense to have a users@ mailing >>>>> list separate from dev@ mailing list. That way support questions about >>>>> product usage, asks, needs etc can be separated from >>>>> developer/design/architecture discussions. Of course, there has to be >>>>> communication between the two groups to build truly useful and usable >>>>> features, but we can bring some organization to it with the separate >>>>> mailing lists. Please comment on the suggestion. >>>>> >>>>> Let¹s keep this thread open through the weekend to gauge the general >>>>> response. >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> aditi >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> David G. Simmons >> (919) 534-5099 >> Web • Blog • Linkedin • Twitter • GitHub >> /** Message digitally signed for security and authenticity. >> * If you cannot read the PGP.sig attachment, please go to >> * http://www.gnupg.com/ Secure your email!!! >> * Public key available at keyserver.pgp.com >> **/ >> ♺ This email uses 100% recycled electrons. Don't blow it by printing! >> >> There are only 2 hard things in computer science: Cache invalidation, naming >> things, and off-by-one errors. >> >> >
