fwiw it's +9 by my count (24->33). Sentry is security, so by my definition that's pretty good. ;-)
Patrick On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Joe Schaefer <joes...@gmail.com> wrote: > All of our projects are primarily in the recruitment business, so it does > concern > me that a project that's been here for over a year and hasn't managed to > attract > any new talent yet has some issues that need addressing. > > But that said I think you might be being a little hard on these guys Joe > for failing in > that regard. If your advice is being ignored that's a problem, but if it's > not and still > no good outcomes yet, them's the breaks. I wouldn't consider that a > blocker for > graduation if so. > > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015, at 08:28 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > > > On 11/02/2015 01:09 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > > > Joe, can we see some jira tickets that you find questionable? Hard > to > > tell > > > > what the problem is just by scanning the email traffic. > > > > > > I'll (again) point to the previous conversation that came out of > David's > > > discussion with Sentry folks at ApacheCon [1] and then the reply from > > > Arvind which basically says he doesn't consider it an issue if the > > > project is "following a roadmap the community does not have control > > > over... that too is not an issue in my opinion at all." [2] > > > > Joe, I'd encourage you to re-read what he says there under [2]. When he > > says "following a roadmap the community doesn't control over" he seems > > to be paraphrasing what has previously been stated, and when he says > > "this is not an issue" it seems to me he is saying "this is not > > happening" rather than "this doesn't bother me". It seems to me you are > > misrepresenting him based upon this one email. > > > > > It's not specific tickets - it's (again) that there appears to be a lot > > > of discussion and planning taking place off-list, out of sight. Take > the > > > 1.6.0 release discussion - no roadmap discussed for 1.6.0 at all, it > > > just appeared [3] and then within 15 minutes there's an "I agree, and > > > I'll be release manager!" [4] message and then several +1 / "I agree" > > > messages, and then .. done. This looks a lot to me like planning and > > > decisions happening off-list and then a cursory "discussion" for > > > appearance's sake. > > > > > > How is a person who's not tapped into the Sentry development process > > > already supposed to get involved? How is this building community? I see > > > the Sentry podling creating code... just not much evidence of a > > > community outside what Sentry came in with. > > > > I have no comment/perspective on the rest of this. > > > > Upayavira > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > >
