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Jiang Xu ------------------ ???????? ------------------ ??????: "Luke Han";<luke...@gmail.com>; ????????: 2015??10??16??(??????) ????7:41 ??????: "general"<general@incubator.apache.org>; ????: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator Apache Kylin's name search has been approved, will raise vote now. Thanks. Best Regards! --------------------- Luke Han On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Luke Han <luke...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you very much for your great feedback. > > For the bylaws, personally I would like to have one to ensure the > community will > grow health and active. There's one draft will coming to PPMC first for > discussion which > I'm working on. > > As my research, there are some projects have this section, like Hive, > Hadoop, Storm > but few are not. > And as checked the content, most of them are actually very similar, like > for the definition > of roles, vote process and decision making. > > So I'm wondering should ASF, IPMC offer standard template for each podling > to have > by default? There's must different between projects but it will be easy > for such work > when graduating. > > At least, I don't found anything about "bylaws" under the Incubator > Graduate Guide [1] > Should we update this guide with such content, or add recommendation? > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html > > Thanks. > > > Best Regards! > --------------------- > > Luke Han > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 2:27 AM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> Agreed, it would be good to have this clarification. The vote is likely to >> proceed more smoothly. >> >> I'm in favor of graduation. I've been lurking over the past few months and >> the podling has been functioning well. >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Maybe the podling should then elaborate on their choice of having it in >> the >> > request proposal, before it comes to a vote and it is still in. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > Pierre Smits >> > >> > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* >> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:47 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Exactly my point. If it's intentional, leave it in, otherwise consider >> > > taking it out. >> > > >> > > As a (very recent) mentor, I see no indication that the Kylin >> community >> > > has plans to deviate. >> > > >> > > Background: When Storm was incubating I thought that creating bylaws >> was >> > > required, and we did so, for better or worse. In retrospect, I >> probably >> > > would have stuck with the defaults. >> > > >> > > -Taylor >> > > >> > > > On Oct 9, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Maybe the podling has a valid reason behind that choice. So let us >> not >> > > > chuck that out of the window because of other podlings not paying >> > > attention >> > > > to what they did. >> > > > >> > > > Best regards, >> > > > >> > > > Pierre Smits >> > > > >> > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* >> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >> > > > >> > > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:42 PM, P. Taylor Goetz < >> ptgo...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> I agree. >> > > >> >> > > >> It??s also worth discussing whether the ??tasked with the creation >> of a >> > > set >> > > >> of bylaws?? section of the proposal is really needed. >> > > >> >> > > >> My understanding is that that section is not actually necessary, >> and >> > has >> > > >> proliferated among projects largely due to copying/pasting of other >> > > >> graduation proposals. I believe it is only necessary if a project >> > plans >> > > to >> > > >> deviate from the ASF standard ASF practices. >> > > >> >> > > >> Just something to consider. >> > > >> >> > > >> -Taylor >> > > >> >> > > >>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote: >> > > >>> >> > > >>> I am a mentor of Kylin and I believe the project is ready to >> > graduate. >> > > >>> They have created a vibrant, open community and are conducting >> > > >>> business in the Apache Way. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> One proviso: Let's complete the name search before starting the >> IPMC >> > > >>> vote. It would be foolish to let that particular cart get in >> front of >> > > >>> the horse. I don't think that prevents us from discussing >> graduation. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Julian >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Samant, Medha <msam...@ebay.com >> > >> > > wrote: >> > > >>>> +1 >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>>> On 10/9/15, 10:13 AM, "Adunuthula, Seshu" <sadunuth...@ebay.com >> > >> > > wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> +1 >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>>> On 10/7/15, 8:32 AM, "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org> >> > wrote: >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> I would be happy to see kylin graduate. >> > > >>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2015 11:28, "Luke Han" <luke...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> The Kylin community and project made significant advances >> during >> > > the >> > > >>>>>>> incubating (from Nov 2014) and >> > > >>>>>>> believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size >> (added >> > 6 >> > > >>>>>>> committers and 2 mentors) and >> > > >>>>>>> increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in >> the >> > > past >> > > >> 6 >> > > >>>>>>> months. There were presentations about Kylin >> > > >>>>>>> at most of the big conferences of the world (including >> > > Strata+Hadoop >> > > >>>>>>> World >> > > >>>>>>> London, Hadoop Summit San Jose, >> > > >>>>>>> ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology >> > > >> Conference >> > > >>>>>>> China) and some meetups (Bay Area, >> > > >>>>>>> Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and >> many >> > > >> talks >> > > >>>>>>> around the world. >> > > >>>>>>> The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics >> per >> > > >> month >> > > >>>>>>> now. >> > > >>>>>>> The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from >> > > >>>>>>> contributors/committers have been merged into code base. >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). >> Please >> > > >> find >> > > >>>>>>> below >> > > >>>>>>> references to the graduation preparation artifacts: >> > > >>>>>>> * discussion on dev list [1] >> > > >>>>>>> * vote thread [2] >> > > >>>>>>> * podling name search (still in progress) [3] >> > > >>>>>>> * incubation status [4] >> > > >>>>>>> * proposed resolution below >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project >> > and >> > > if >> > > >>>>>>> the >> > > >>>>>>> IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote. >> > > >>>>>>> There are a few more items to be updated on the project status >> > page >> > > >> and >> > > >>>>>>> others during the next couple of days. >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support, >> > > >>>>>>> Luke Han (on behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC) >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate >> > > >>>>>>> [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote >> > > >>>>>>> [3] >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86 >> > > >>>>>>> [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> Apache Kylin top-level project resolution: >> > > >>>>>>> =============================== >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the >> best >> > > >>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >> > > >>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >> > > >>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >> > > >>>>>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to >> the >> > > >>>>>>> public, relative to distributed and scalable OLAP engine >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >> > > >>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kylin >> Project", >> > > >>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >> > > >>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is >> > > >>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of >> open-source >> > > >>>>>>> software related to distributed and scalable OLAP engine; >> > > >>>>>>> and be it further >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Kylin" be >> and >> > > >>>>>>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to >> serve >> > at >> > > >>>>>>> the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of >> the >> > > >>>>>>> Apache Kylin Project, and to have primary responsibility >> for >> > > >>>>>>> management of the projects within the scope of >> > responsibility >> > > >>>>>>> of the Apache Kylin Project; and be it further >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be >> and >> > > >>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of >> the >> > > >>>>>>> Apache Kylin Project: >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> * Dayue Gao <gaodayue at apache dot org> >> > > >>>>>>> * Jason Zhong <zhongjian at apache dot org> >> > > >>>>>>> * Julian Hyde <jhyde at apache dot org> >> > > >>>>>>> * Luke Han <lukehan at apache dot org> >> > > >>>>>>> * Henry Saputra <hsaputra at apache dot org> >> > > >>>>>>> * Hongbin Ma <mahongbin at apache dot org> >> > > >>>>>>> * Hua Huang <hhuang at apache dot org> >> > > >>>>>>> * Owen O'Malley <omalley at apache dot org> >> > > >>>>>>> * P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz at apache dot org> >> > > >>>>>>> * Qianhao Zhou <qhzhou at apache dot org> >> > > >>>>>>> * Shaofeng Shi <shaofengshi at apache dot org> >> > > >>>>>>> * Song Yi <yisong at apache dot org> >> > > >>>>>>> * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache dot org> >> > > >>>>>>> * Xu Jiang <jiangxu at apache dot org> >> > > >>>>>>> * Yang Li <liyang at apache dot org> >> > > >>>>>>> * Yerui Sun < sunyerui at apache dot org> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Luke Han >> > > >>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Kylin, to >> > serve >> > > >>>>>>> in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >> Board >> > > of >> > > >>>>>>> Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, >> > > >>>>>>> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or >> > until >> > > >>>>>>> a successor is appointed; and be it further >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and >> > hereby >> > > >>>>>>> is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended >> to >> > > >>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in >> > the >> > > >>>>>>> Kylin Project; and be it further >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and >> > hereby >> > > >>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the >> > Apache >> > > >>>>>>> Incubator Kylin podling; and be it further >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the >> Apache >> > > >>>>>>> Incubator Kylin podling encumbered upon the Apache >> Incubator >> > > >>>>>>> PMC are hereafter discharged. >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > >>>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > >>> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> >> - Andy >> >> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein >> (via Tom White) >> > >