Maybe the podling has a valid reason behind that choice. So let us not
chuck that out of the window because of other podlings not paying attention
to what they did.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

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On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:42 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree.
>
> It’s also worth discussing whether the “tasked with the creation of a set
> of bylaws” section of the proposal is really needed.
>
> My understanding is that that section is not actually necessary, and has
> proliferated among projects largely due to copying/pasting of other
> graduation proposals. I believe it is only necessary if a project plans to
> deviate from the ASF standard ASF practices.
>
> Just something to consider.
>
> -Taylor
>
> > On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > I am a mentor of Kylin and I believe the project is ready to graduate.
> > They have created a vibrant, open community and are conducting
> > business in the Apache Way.
> >
> > One proviso: Let's complete the name search before starting the IPMC
> > vote. It would be foolish to let that particular cart get in front of
> > the horse. I don't think that prevents us from discussing graduation.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Samant, Medha <msam...@ebay.com> wrote:
> >> +1
> >>
> >> On 10/9/15, 10:13 AM, "Adunuthula, Seshu" <sadunuth...@ebay.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1
> >>>
> >>> On 10/7/15, 8:32 AM, "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I would be happy to see kylin graduate.
> >>>> On Oct 7, 2015 11:28, "Luke Han" <luke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> The Kylin community and project made significant advances during the
> >>>>> incubating (from Nov 2014) and
> >>>>> believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size (added 6
> >>>>> committers and 2 mentors) and
> >>>>> increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in the past
> 6
> >>>>> months. There were presentations about Kylin
> >>>>> at most of the big conferences of the world (including Strata+Hadoop
> >>>>> World
> >>>>> London, Hadoop Summit San Jose,
> >>>>> ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology
> Conference
> >>>>> China) and some meetups (Bay Area,
> >>>>> Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and many
> talks
> >>>>> around the world.
> >>>>> The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics per
> month
> >>>>> now.
> >>>>> The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from
> >>>>> contributors/committers have been merged into code base.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). Please
> find
> >>>>> below
> >>>>> references to the graduation preparation artifacts:
> >>>>> * discussion on dev list [1]
> >>>>> * vote thread [2]
> >>>>> * podling name search (still in progress) [3]
> >>>>> * incubation status [4]
> >>>>> * proposed resolution below
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project and if
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote.
> >>>>> There are a few more items to be updated on the project status page
> and
> >>>>> others during the next couple of days.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support,
> >>>>> Luke Han (on behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate
> >>>>> [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote
> >>>>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86
> >>>>> [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Apache Kylin top-level project resolution:
> >>>>> ===============================
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >>>>>       interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >>>>>       Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >>>>>       Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> >>>>>       open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> >>>>>       public, relative to distributed and scalable OLAP engine
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >>>>>       Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kylin Project",
> >>>>>       be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >>>>>       Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       RESOLVED, that the Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is
> >>>>>       responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
> >>>>>       software related to distributed and scalable OLAP engine;
> >>>>>       and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Kylin" be and
> >>>>>       hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
> >>>>>       the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
> >>>>>       Apache Kylin Project, and to have primary responsibility for
> >>>>>       management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
> >>>>>       of the Apache Kylin Project; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >>>>>       hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> >>>>>       Apache Kylin Project:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        * Dayue Gao <gaodayue at apache dot org>
> >>>>>        * Jason Zhong <zhongjian at apache dot org>
> >>>>>        * Julian Hyde <jhyde at apache dot org>
> >>>>>        * Luke Han <lukehan at apache dot org>
> >>>>>        * Henry Saputra <hsaputra at apache dot org>
> >>>>>        * Hongbin Ma <mahongbin at apache dot org>
> >>>>>        * Hua Huang <hhuang at apache dot org>
> >>>>>        * Owen O'Malley <omalley at apache dot org>
> >>>>>        * P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz at apache dot org>
> >>>>>        * Qianhao Zhou <qhzhou at apache dot org>
> >>>>>        * Shaofeng Shi <shaofengshi at apache dot org>
> >>>>>        * Song Yi <yisong at apache dot org>
> >>>>>        * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache dot org>
> >>>>>        * Xu Jiang <jiangxu at apache dot org>
> >>>>>        * Yang Li <liyang at apache dot org>
> >>>>>        * Yerui Sun < sunyerui at apache dot org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Luke Han
> >>>>>       be appointed to the office of Vice President, Kylin, to serve
> >>>>>       in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of
> >>>>>       Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
> >>>>>       resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
> >>>>>       a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and hereby
> >>>>>       is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> >>>>>       encourage open development and increased participation in the
> >>>>>       Kylin Project; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and hereby
> >>>>>       is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> >>>>>       Incubator Kylin podling; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
> >>>>>       Incubator Kylin podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> >>>>>       PMC are hereafter discharged.
> >>>>>
> >>>
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