Hi -

Well I was late with my retraction. So, I did so to the board directly and with 
the report.

Sorry for any consternation. Best of luck. I do think that once your podling 
does release that TLP status should come soon.

Regards,
Dave

On Sep 12, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:

> Hi Ted,
> 
> OK. I did a look through the dev archives and while quick I really did not 
> see a conversation.
> 
> However, on second look I do see it. The list is very active and it was hard 
> to see.
> 
> I am rephrasing my shepherds comments.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave
> 
> On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> 
>> Dave,
>> 
>> I would take some issue with your comments here.
>> 
>> If you look at what is happening right now, the entire Drill team is
>> focussed on making a release and particularly focussed on getting the IP
>> issues right.  There have been several release candidates posted and the
>> community members have been reviewing these and working through the
>> identified issues very systematically.  This is the first release of this
>> code under Apache guidelines and most of the developers are new to Apache.
>> As such, it is hardly surprising that there is a lack of experience in
>> getting the form right for IP clearance.  The current process is a good
>> learning experience and contributors are pitching in whole-heartedly and
>> almost all issues have been addressed.
>> 
>> As I pointed out when you asked a question on the mailing list, the lack of
>> incubator disclaimer had already been noted, a JIRA filed and a patch
>> posted even before you noticed it.  I would like to also point out also
>> that all of the mentors have been active in reviewing release candidates
>> and the mentors were the ones who first raised the IP issues.
>> 
>> I would request that you rephrase or retract the comment "does not seem to
>> include any drive to make any release".  There is absolutely a drive for a
>> release and it is bearing fruit as we write.
>> 
>> We do appreciate your positive comment on our community building efforts.
>> We are working *very* hard on that (along with building kick-ass
>> technology into kick-ass code packaged up in a kick-ass and fully IP
>> cleared release).
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> I am concerned the podling is missing the DISCLAIMER in its source code
>>> and on most web pages.
>>> 
>>> There is a lot of activity but it does not seem to include any drive to
>>> make any release.
>>> 
>>> There is tremendous community building activity.
>>> 
>>> Heavy on community and light on IP clearance.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Greets,
>>>> 
>>>> Here are shepherd assignments for our September 2013 report:
>>>> 
>>>>  SHEPHERD           PODLING
>>>>  --------------------------
>>>>  Alan Cabrera       Falcon
>>>>  Alan Cabrera       MetaModel
>>>>  Alan Cabrera       Tajo
>>>>  Dave Fisher        Drill
>>>>  Dave Fisher        S4
>>>>  Matt Franklin      Olingo
>>>>  Matt Franklin      Provisionr
>>>>  Ross Gardler       Wave
>>>>  Matt Hogstrom      Sentry
>>>>  Benson Marguilies  Spark
>>>>  Suresh Marru       Allura
>>>>  Suresh Marru       Samza
>>>>  Roman Shaposhnik   Kalumet
>>>>  Roman Shaposhnik   MRQL
>>>>  Roman Shaposhnik   Streams
>>>> 
>>>> Please add your reports to the wiki by the end of next Tuesday,
>>> September 10.
>>>> I will collect all of them into a single email and send to
>>> general@incubator
>>>> after the report is filed.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Marvin Humphrey
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