Hi Ted,

OK. I did a look through the dev archives and while quick I really did not see 
a conversation.

However, on second look I do see it. The list is very active and it was hard to 
see.

I am rephrasing my shepherds comments.

Thanks,
Dave

On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> I would take some issue with your comments here.
> 
> If you look at what is happening right now, the entire Drill team is
> focussed on making a release and particularly focussed on getting the IP
> issues right.  There have been several release candidates posted and the
> community members have been reviewing these and working through the
> identified issues very systematically.  This is the first release of this
> code under Apache guidelines and most of the developers are new to Apache.
> As such, it is hardly surprising that there is a lack of experience in
> getting the form right for IP clearance.  The current process is a good
> learning experience and contributors are pitching in whole-heartedly and
> almost all issues have been addressed.
> 
> As I pointed out when you asked a question on the mailing list, the lack of
> incubator disclaimer had already been noted, a JIRA filed and a patch
> posted even before you noticed it.  I would like to also point out also
> that all of the mentors have been active in reviewing release candidates
> and the mentors were the ones who first raised the IP issues.
> 
> I would request that you rephrase or retract the comment "does not seem to
> include any drive to make any release".  There is absolutely a drive for a
> release and it is bearing fruit as we write.
> 
> We do appreciate your positive comment on our community building efforts.
> We are working *very* hard on that (along with building kick-ass
> technology into kick-ass code packaged up in a kick-ass and fully IP
> cleared release).
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> I am concerned the podling is missing the DISCLAIMER in its source code
>> and on most web pages.
>> 
>> There is a lot of activity but it does not seem to include any drive to
>> make any release.
>> 
>> There is tremendous community building activity.
>> 
>> Heavy on community and light on IP clearance.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
>> 
>>> Greets,
>>> 
>>> Here are shepherd assignments for our September 2013 report:
>>> 
>>>   SHEPHERD           PODLING
>>>   --------------------------
>>>   Alan Cabrera       Falcon
>>>   Alan Cabrera       MetaModel
>>>   Alan Cabrera       Tajo
>>>   Dave Fisher        Drill
>>>   Dave Fisher        S4
>>>   Matt Franklin      Olingo
>>>   Matt Franklin      Provisionr
>>>   Ross Gardler       Wave
>>>   Matt Hogstrom      Sentry
>>>   Benson Marguilies  Spark
>>>   Suresh Marru       Allura
>>>   Suresh Marru       Samza
>>>   Roman Shaposhnik   Kalumet
>>>   Roman Shaposhnik   MRQL
>>>   Roman Shaposhnik   Streams
>>> 
>>> Please add your reports to the wiki by the end of next Tuesday,
>> September 10.
>>> I will collect all of them into a single email and send to
>> general@incubator
>>> after the report is filed.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Marvin Humphrey
>>> 
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