On Jun 19, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote:

> I would prefer to use well known names for well known roles.  Ombudsman is a 
> roll that's been around for quite a while and the person filling that role 
> for the ASF will be doing roughly the same thing as ombudsman in other 
> organizations.
> 
> With that said, I will agree that if everything is running fine, the 
> ombudsman is pretty much watching Oprah re-runs.  Hopefully we will all work 
> hard so this person will have the time to catch up.  ;)
> 
> However, I will point out that my proposal has come about from concrete 
> personal experience and the experiences that others have personally related 
> to me.  I will also point out that it seems to me that those who are opposed 
> or, at best, lukewarm to the idea are well established and well connected 
> individuals in the ASF sphere.

+1.

How should we "bless" our Ombudsmen? On private@? Do we have more than one? If 
so what is the limit?

Regards,
Dave

> 
> 
> Regards,
> Alan
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Why one would need an additional alias? Existing questions are sent to
>> general@ or dev@community or (please add here), and one in the superhero
>> role should timely answer them or facilitate an answer. [Complex question]
>> tag in the subject line should be sufficient, or just no answer to some
>> mail for 72 hours.
>> 
>> If titles are important, we can simply assign nice titles to guys who
>> answer to 10 of these complex issues.
>> 
>> Maybe some discussion on facilitation means can be useful to avoid calling
>> the guy impolite.
>> 
>> I have one particular problem to deal with. New projects which come outside
>> of Apache, cannot find Apache champion. The request is too wide to reach
>> someones ear. One possibe way to address it is to assign an eco-champion to
>> the new project who performs the project evaluation. The champion comes
>> from the Apache project of the same area. Sometimes we may end up with
>> community merges by going this way.
>> 19.06.2013 3:03 пользователь "Ross Gardler" <rgard...@opendirective.com>
>> написал:
>> 
>>> On 18 June 2013 23:53, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Why so much reluctance to just honor the request such as it is
>>>> instead of looking for different ways of modifying it to taste?
>>> 
>>> ISSUE 03 at work I think - perhaps it is my fault for thinking aloud
>>> about how the role might also help solve a different problem from the
>>> one it was originally designed to solve. Maybe I set the wrong tone
>>> for discussion. Lets forget that.
>>> 
>>> Please just go ahead and do it the way you are suggesting. There is no
>>> harm. The worst that can happen is someone sends an email to the alias
>>> and there is no response. The next worst is that nobody ever uses it.
>>> In either case we will eventually reverse this step.
>>> 
>>> And please also go ahead with your "bill of rights" - I'll comment in
>>> that thread in a moment.
>>> 
>>> Ross
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