Alan, Stop putting words in my mouth. I'm not suggesting tweaking anything nor changing Incubator process.
Notice I said "I think we should probably.." Please tell me where I said "You [or we] must.." Again, it's Ramirez's call since he put the proposal up and is the Champion. If he gets at least 3 IPMC +1s in a new thread (which it looks like he will create), nothing has changed, all is well. Cheers, Chris ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: Alan Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 8:00 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >Please, let's not make up new rules as we go along. > >To be sure as IPMC members we should proactively inform the prospective >podling of the potential problems they will encounter entering the >Incubator with less than 3 mentors. It would commendable if IPMC members >actively hunted such mentors down for the potential podling. > >But let's not do ad hoc tweaking to our processes. Let's keep things >simple and let the vote continue. > > >Regards, >Alan > >On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:54 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" ><chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > >> Hey Alan, >> >> Great question if there is an "official" policy here. My read is >> that no it's based on tribal knowledge and informal assumption. >> >> That said, let's take a simple data point: how many proposals >> over the past few years have been accepted with less than 3 >> mentors (not considering like you mentioned that mentors do >> go AWOL from time to time and that over the life of a podling, >> there may be less than 3 active at a given time)? >> >> It's Paul's proposal as Champion so, up to him, but my recommendation >> would be to find 1 more wiling IPMC $victim..err mentor! >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >> Senior Computer Scientist >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alan Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com> >> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> >> Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:48 AM >> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >> >>> Mentors come and go. Is there an explicit rule that a podling needs >>> three mentors before it can start to be incubated? >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Alan >>> >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:37 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" >>> <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: >>> >>>> Paul, guys; I just noticed that HotdoG only has 2 mentors right now >>>> (myself, and pramirez). >>>> >>>> Is there another IPMC mentor that would be willing to sign up >>>> for the project? I think we should probably cancel the VOTE Paul, >>>> and restart it with another mentor. >>>> >>>> Besides that, Adam Estrada (VP, SIS) has expressed interest also >>>> in the proposal. So we should sort that out. Sorry for the delay, >>>> hopefully we can restart the VOTE shortly when we have a 3rd mentor >>>> and sort out Adam's participation. >>>> >>>> Paul can you send a [CANCEL] [VOTE] thread? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >>>> Senior Computer Scientist >>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >>>> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> >>>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >>>><general@incubator.apache.org> >>>> Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:21 AM >>>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> >>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >>>> >>>>> Hey Jim, >>>>> >>>>> I think it should probably read: >>>>> >>>>> We're looking for people interested in HotDog and to move the >>>>>proposal >>>>> into the Apache Community. The project is moving from a previously >>>>> open source external community into Apache. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I've updated the proposal on the wiki as such: >>>>> >>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HotdoGProposal >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >>>>> Senior Computer Scientist >>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >>>>> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> >>>>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >>>>><general@incubator.apache.org> >>>>> Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:55 AM >>>>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 1:28 PM, "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" >>>>>> <paul.m.rami...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We're looking for developers and sponsors. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sponsors?? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org