On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldon...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Ross Gardler > <rgard...@opendirective.com> wrote: >> On 16 January 2012 09:31, Robert Burrell Donkin > > <snip> > >>> The right way to discipline Mentors is to remove them from the IPMC. >>> I've started a thread on private. Threatening to terminate their >>> podlings just muddies the waters. >> >> We are *not* talking about disciplining mentors we are talking about >> helping them do a better job or, if they are inactive, recognising >> this and helping the podling find the mentoring they need. It is about >> feedback loops, not about big sticks. > > The line beyond constructive feedback was passed long ago in these > discussions. There are clearly two strongly held but incompatible > views on the nature of Mentoring and governance at Apache. Either find > constructive ways to blend them, or remove the destructive minority. > > I believe in community led development, and that community building is > an art that requires judgment not a science that can be planned. > > I back Ant and the Mentors who allowed River, Cassandra etc the space > they needed to find and build their communities. I stand by our > decision to allow Kato time to try to resolve it's external problems. > I have not been persuaded that I'm wrong but I'm no longer will to > argue. Either accept my minority opinion or remove my karma. > >
Well put, same goes for me too. ...ant --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
