On 16 January 2012 09:31, Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldon...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:23 AM, ant elder <antel...@apache.org> wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Ross Gardler >> <rgard...@opendirective.com> wrote: >>> On 16 January 2012 09:05, ant elder <ant.el...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> >>>> ActiveMQ, Cassandra, CXF, Felix, Harmony >>>> >>>> Are people seriously suggesting that the ASF would be better off had >>>> we terminated those poddlings just because some time period of >>>> incubation had passed? >>> >>> Can we please stop with this kind of language, Nobody has suggested >>> that a podling be terminated at a fixed point in time. Let me repeat >>> that ***NOBODY*** has suggested this. >>> >> >> You and Sam have just replied +1 to Joe's suggestion that we are not >> in the business of providing free hosting and that we should insist >> some poddlings be taken to GitHub. The subject of this thread is >> "Actively retiring projects". If what is being proposed is in fact not >> actively retiring projects then lets shut this thread down and start >> up some new threads on what the proposals really are.
That is true, and I still I agree with Joes statement. But let me be clear, I agree with the statement Joe made, not the statement you seem to think he made. Joe did *not* say that we should kick projects out at a specified point in time. What he said was "I wish we could get past the whole idea that we are punishing a podling by insisting that they take their work to say github instead.... What we lack is a sensible mechanism for reviewing longstanding projects in terms of their projected future in this place." This is what I said in the text you snipped from above. > The right way to discipline Mentors is to remove them from the IPMC. > I've started a thread on private. Threatening to terminate their > podlings just muddies the waters. We are *not* talking about disciplining mentors we are talking about helping them do a better job or, if they are inactive, recognising this and helping the podling find the mentoring they need. It is about feedback loops, not about big sticks. Ross --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
