Hi Rupert,

This statement convinces me that you are an independent committer on the project. I think it would be good for everyone on the qpid project who consider themselves to be independent to post a similar statement.

I'd probably go further, and ask that the statements be included in the "who we are" section of the public qpid incubator project site.

I think this would go a long way toward making the incubator pmc members more comfortable about the diversity of the project.

I understand that some consulting contracts have explicit clauses that require that the consultant *not* publicize their working relationships with clients. But I think that it's possible for qpid committers to make statements similar to Rupert's below, to the effect that even though they might have worked on a project that used qpid, or were at some point paid to work on qpid, that their current contributions and activities are on their own nickel. And I hope that Rupert doesn't get into trouble with JPMC over this disclosure.

Craig

On Mar 25, 2008, at 3:11 PM, Rupert Smith wrote:

I don't mean to be secretive so I shall clarify things for you. I have
provided consultancy to JPMC and this did relate to Qpid, particularly
helping some of their teams to get set up with it. However, I have never been covered by a corporate CLA but signed it as an individual contributor. This was because I was not ever an employee of JPMC but provided consultancy through another company. Our contract stated something along the lines of
JPMC specify what it is that they need, but is up to the contractor to
decide how, where, when this is fulfilled (in order to make it clear that I was not an employee). In other words, I chose of my own independent free will to recomend Qpid as a solution for them, and contributed to it as an independant entity to further our mutual aims, rather than being employed
specifically to work on it.

I have finished consulting for JPMC but am still a committer to the project. I have an active interest in other customers who could benefit from free and open middleware especially where the interoperable and open nature of AMQP
could be used to their advantage. I also have an ongoing interest in
developing some testing ideas based on aspects of model checking, as I wrote the junit-toolkit, and am interested in ways in which logic programming can
be used to generate and evaluate test cases.

I'm currently an active committer and fully independant at the time of the
proposed graduation. Hope this helps you make your minds up.

Best regards,

Rupert

On 25/03/2008, Yonik Seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Robert Greig <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote:
On 25/03/2008, Robert Greig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Let's drop the "legally" qualifier from independent... this isn't
the IRS :-)

In that case I would claim that I am also independent. Although I work
for JPMC I am not paid to work on the Qpid project and all my
contributions for the last 14 months have been in my own time. As
anyone can see from my public LinkedIn profile, I am an architect for
the cash equities business.


That's cool. I'd much rather have people put it all out there and let
others decide (full disclosure).  Intersecting affiliations should be
disclosed IMO. Doesn't matter what that affiliation is... working for
part time, full time, indirectly, an indirect client of, working on
site, whatever.

The whole secrecy thing is strange.  Is Rupert one of those guys who
can't reveal his affiliations (including people he works with and end
clients, not just middle-men)?


-Yonik


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