Then by all means go ahead with a proposal to the Geronimo PMC asking
to start a new incubation project for BPEL as you say that there is
enough people to work on it. Not a backdoor "patch" to ServiceMix.
BPEL can be used standalone and BPEL was not in scope of ServiceMix. A
BPEL JBI Component is not a problem at all. But a full BPEL
implementation is a problem.

thanks,
dims

On 2/3/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was speaking with my Geronimo PMC hat on thinking in general about
> projects within the Geronimo PMC.
>
> James
>
> On 3 Feb 2006, at 14:26, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > James,
> >
> > you can make those decisions when ServiceMix is a TLP of its own.
> > Right now it's not.
> >
> > thanks,
> > dims
> >
> > On 2/3/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On 3 Feb 2006, at 13:23, James Strachan wrote:
> >>> On 3 Feb 2006, at 13:02, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> >>>> So, bottom line, Please draw up a new proposal for a separate
> >>>> project.
> >>>
> >>> So here's the thing; no-one involved (the folks donating the code
> >>> and the committers on the ServiceMix project) want a new project.
> >>> We all want to work in the single JBI project, ServiceMix where the
> >>> JBI container and JBI components live and are developed, documented
> >>> and tested together. We want a single, strong community around JBI.
> >>
> >> Incidentally its worth looking at other projects at Apache like Agila
> >> and various projects on http://ws.apache.org like EWS, Mirae, Muse,
> >> WSRF, TSIK etc which are kinda quiet, some near dormant. Making
> >> projects too small and too granular can sometimes harm the chances of
> >> creating a vibrant community. Just as the some folks in the WS PMC
> >> are starting to consider collapsing projects together due to
> >> inactivity, I think we should stay open to the idea of creating less
> >> granular projects that can build a thriving community to start with
> >> then, if the community decides, split things off later if something
> >> becomes so popular it deserves its own project.
> >>
> >> James
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