On Dec 20, 2005, at 4:49 PM, Martin Cooper wrote:

Personally, I am less than happy at seeing yet another large project
proposed from a corporate source (and IBM at that), along with a dozen new committers who have not earned their merit at the ASF as most committers
have. I feel the ASF is losing its way, and becoming a repository for
corporate open-sourcing along with taking on responsibility for building communities around corporate code bases. I suspect I'm in the minority at the ASF, and I'm undoubtedly in the minority here in the incubator. But there doesn't seem to be a way for the incubator to say "no thanks", other than by a podling failing the incubation process, and that seems wrong to
me.

The merits of the particular proposal aside, I wanted to comment on this paragraph. This year at ApacheCon I was surprised to find that a number of people also feel that the ASF is growing far too quickly. I know that are some people who believe that the growth that we are experiencing is indicative of our success. Unfortunately, I don't agree with that. I think that the incubation process is setting an incredibly low bar for access to the Apache brand name, and this is a bad thing. Corporations see the value of the brand name, that's why they want to come here and are willing to put up with all our overhead.

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