On Dec 21, 2005, at 4:50 AM, Ted Leung wrote:
On Dec 20, 2005, at 4:49 PM, Martin Cooper wrote:
Personally, I am less than happy at seeing yet another large project
proposed from a corporate source (and IBM at that), along with a
dozen new
committers who have not earned their merit at the ASF as most
committers
have. I feel the ASF is losing its way, and becoming a repository for
corporate open-sourcing along with taking on responsibility for
building
communities around corporate code bases. I suspect I'm in the
minority at
the ASF, and I'm undoubtedly in the minority here in the
incubator. But
there doesn't seem to be a way for the incubator to say "no
thanks", other
than by a podling failing the incubation process, and that seems
wrong to
me.
The merits of the particular proposal aside, I wanted to comment
on this paragraph. This year at ApacheCon I was surprised to find
that a number of people also feel that the ASF is growing far too
quickly. I know that are some people who believe that the growth
that we are experiencing is indicative of our success.
Unfortunately, I don't agree with that. I think that the
incubation process is setting an incredibly low bar for access to
the Apache brand name, and this is a bad thing. Corporations see
the value of the brand name, that's why they want to come here and
are willing to put up with all our overhead.
Unless we are very careful, Incubator will become a much
larger mess than the Jakarta project ever was... Which
would be quite ironic.
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