Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

Hence I ask to vote

It's a big thing to vote on all at once. I still have question marks with some points. What I'm looking for is some signal that we are moving in a direction where the TLPs will actually *want* to follow incubation procedure (which would be a good sign of good functioning), *and* where all the oversight / due deligence (sp?) stuff is taken care of as well.

That's our common goal, innit?

I'm +1 to seeing the below as a "first step" to a
charter, something to put up online and use as the
basis of further discussion.

But I do have more thoughts on various things (that
have yet to crystallize), and I think others do as
well. So no vote from me on anything else.

There are no subprojects in Apache, only Projects that are usually
called Top Level Projects or TLP. Thus the Incubator works for incubating Projects.

ehm...lets make that say what you mean:


Legally/officially, There are no *sub*projects in Apache, only Projects
that are usually called Top Level Projects or TLP. Incubation of new
communities that are intended to become a TLP is the responsibility of
the Incubator PMC.

For 'subprojects', the incubation responsibility is divided between the
Incubator PMC and the TLP PMC.

Incubator Scope
================

too many complex words :D


The Incubator [scope is]:

1 - incubation of Projects, [that is, the incubation of communities]
    that wish to become Apache Projects (TLP)

2 - assistance of projects that are importing new codebases and new sets
of committers that formed an outside community, when requested
by the project doing the "import"

rephrase:


 2 - working with existing TLPs that are bringing in new codebases and/or
   existing communities to help that TLP do its "subproject" "incubation"

3 - definition of and maintainance of the policy projects should use
when importing external codebases, therefore creating a clear
audit trail for all donations

rephrase:


3 - definition and maintainance of all policies and procedures that
   surround incubation

problem: no definition of "incubation".

Incubation of [Potential Top-Level-Projects]
=============================================================

= PPMC =

To make Incubating project learn to govern themselves and govern themselves at the same time, each project gets a PPMC, that is a Project PMC (is this right?)

imho no :D. Let's just call it PPMC and let the meaning of the abbreviation be lost with history!

that works similarly to a PMC but refers to the Incubator PMC instead of the board.

^^^ 'reports'


and that's how far I got with my comments last time. I'm sure I have
more comments on the rest :D

- LSD



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