Status update:
- Started the VOTE on WS-PMC. Will report back the results.
- There's Portlet API jar (named pluto.jar) that is required by both Charon and 
Jetspeed-2. The
Jetspeed-2 folks are working on it
(http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jetspeed-dev&m=105949774325419&w=2). 

Questions:
- Is availability of pluto.jar file a Show Stopper for Charon? 
- If it is a show-stopper, how come it is ok for jetspeed-2 to have this dependency?
- What else is required before Charon can be accepted for incubation?

Thanks,
dims

--- Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greg Stein wrote:
> > 
> > So how exactly was this projected "accepted"? I see zero discussion before
> > Ken's post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] That seems *very* inappropriate.
> 
> it hasn't been accepted, at least not by the incubator.  oh,
> you mean the sponsoring project.  all i can say is what i was told
> by sam, which i've already done.
> 
> > Fair enough, but Sam isn't the decision maker on whether something gets
> > accepted, and not necessarily on where it goes. Especially when there has
> > been zero discussion.
> 
> greg, i'm on neither of those lists.  i took sam at his word.
> and he is apparently offline for a few days and unable to respond.
> he told me davinum ex officio web services was ready for it to
> come to ws; not being on that list, i had to accept that, too --
> but i also cc'd sam and davinum on the mail to clarify anything
> i screwed up.
> 
> > I'm not too concerned about having the dependent code *at* the ASF, since we
> > usually have dependencies on external things. However, I *do* think a
> > necessary precondition is that it becomes available with an ASL-compatible
> > license before the incubation is accepted.
> 
> it will be.  that's what i meant by 'safe licensing'.
> 
> > My binding vote is -1 until we see the dependency made available. After
> > that, +1 assuming that the WS PMC votes to actually accept the thing
> > post-incubation.
> 
> fair enough.
> 
> > I'm also a -1 on the apparent process on how this "arrived" at the
> > Incubator.
> 
> miscommunication, is all.  i assumed from what i was told that
> everything was done and the actual incubation inception was become
> the bottleneck.  sam and davinum can respond, and i'll ask richard
> jacob (from the wsrp4j team) to join the list here.
> 
> i don't know about anyone else, but *i'm* certainly trying to have
> this be as open as possible, and move as swiftly as possible.  the
> former is more important than the latter, though.
> -- 
> #ken  P-)}
> 
> Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini  http://Golux.Com/coar/
> Author, developer, opinionist      http://Apache-Server.Com/
> 
> "Millennium hand and shrimp!"
> 


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Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/

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