On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 16:44, Richard Biener <richard.guent...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 12:36 PM Prathamesh Kulkarni
> <prathamesh.kulka...@linaro.org> wrote:
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> > On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 16:40, Richard Biener <richard.guent...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 12:11 PM Prathamesh Kulkarni
> > > <prathamesh.kulka...@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 13:22, Richard Biener 
> > > > <richard.guent...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 6:25 PM Prathamesh Kulkarni
> > > > > <prathamesh.kulka...@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 at 16:36, Richard Biener 
> > > > > > <richard.guent...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 11:37 AM Prathamesh Kulkarni
> > > > > > > <prathamesh.kulka...@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 at 12:56, Richard Biener 
> > > > > > > > <richard.guent...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 7:08 AM Prathamesh Kulkarni
> > > > > > > > > <prathamesh.kulka...@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 at 18:14, Prathamesh Kulkarni
> > > > > > > > > > <prathamesh.kulka...@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 at 15:19, Prathamesh Kulkarni
> > > > > > > > > > > <prathamesh.kulka...@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 17:08, Alexander Monakov 
> > > > > > > > > > > > <amona...@ispras.ru> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I obtained perf stat results for following 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > benchmark runs:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -O2:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >     7856832.692380      task-clock (msec)         # 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    1.000 CPUs utilized
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >               3758               context-switches   
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >        #    0.000 K/sec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                 40                 cpu-migrations   
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >           #    0.000 K/sec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >              40847              page-faults         
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >           #    0.005 K/sec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >      7856782413676      cycles                      
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >      #    1.000 GHz
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >      6034510093417      instructions                
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    #    0.77  insn per cycle
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >       363937274287       branches                   
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >     #   46.321 M/sec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >        48557110132       branch-misses              
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >   #   13.34% of all branches
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (ouch, 2+ hours per run is a lot, collecting a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > profile over a minute should be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > enough for this kind of code)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -O2 with orthonl inlined:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >     8319643.114380      task-clock (msec)       #   
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  1.000 CPUs utilized
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >               4285               context-switches   
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >       #    0.001 K/sec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                 28                 cpu-migrations   
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >          #    0.000 K/sec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >              40843              page-faults         
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >          #    0.005 K/sec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >      8319591038295      cycles                      
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >     #    1.000 GHz
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >      6276338800377      instructions                
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >   #    0.75  insn per cycle
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >       467400726106       branches                   
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    #   56.180 M/sec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >        45986364011        branch-misses             
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  #    9.84% of all branches
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > So +100e9 branches, but +240e9 instructions and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +480e9 cycles, probably implying
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that extra instructions are appearing in this loop 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > nest, but not in the innermost
> > > > > > > > > > > > > loop. As a reminder for others, the innermost loop 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > has only 3 iterations.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -O2 with orthonl inlined and PRE disabled (this 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > removes the extra branches):
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    8207331.088040      task-clock (msec)   #    
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.000 CPUs utilized
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >               2266               context-switches   
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  #    0.000 K/sec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                 32                 cpu-migrations   
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >     #    0.000 K/sec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >              40846              page-faults         
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >     #    0.005 K/sec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >      8207292032467      cycles                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > #   1.000 GHz
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >      6035724436440      instructions             #  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >   0.74  insn per cycle
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >       364415440156       branches                 # 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >   44.401 M/sec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >        53138327276        branch-misses         #   
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.58% of all branches
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This seems to match baseline in terms of instruction 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > count, but without PRE
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the loop nest may be carrying some dependencies over 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > memory. I would simply
> > > > > > > > > > > > > check the assembly for the entire 6-level loop nest 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in question, I hope it's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not very complicated (though Fortran array 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > addressing...).
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -O2 with orthonl inlined and hoisting disabled:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    7797265.206850      task-clock (msec)         #  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >   1.000 CPUs utilized
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >               3139              context-switches    
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >       #    0.000 K/sec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                 20                cpu-migrations    
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >          #    0.000 K/sec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >              40846              page-faults         
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >          #    0.005 K/sec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >      7797221351467      cycles                      
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >     #    1.000 GHz
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >      6187348757324      instructions                
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >   #    0.79  insn per cycle
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >       461840800061       branches                   
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    #   59.231 M/sec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >        26920311761        branch-misses             
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > #    5.83% of all branches
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a 20e9 reduction in branch misses and a 500e9 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > reduction in cycle count.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think the former fully covers the latter 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (there's also a 90e9 reduction
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in insn count).
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Given that the inner loop iterates only 3 times, my 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > main suggestion is to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > consider how the profile for the entire loop nest 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > looks like (it's 6 loops deep,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > each iterating only 3 times).
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perf profiles for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -O2 -fno-code-hoisting and inlined orthonl:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://people.linaro.org/~prathamesh.kulkarni/perf_O2_inline.data
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >           3196866 |1f04:    ldur   d1, [x1, #-248]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 216348301800│            add    w0, w0, #0x1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >             985098 |            add    x2, x2, #0x18
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 216215999206│            add    x1, x1, #0x48
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 215630376504│            fmul   d1, d5, d1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 863829148015│            fmul   d1, d1, d6
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 864228353526│            fmul   d0, d1, d0
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 864568163014│            fmadd  d2, d0, d16, d2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                         │             cmp    w0, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > #0x4
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 216125427594│          ↓ b.eq   1f34
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >         15010377│             ldur   d0, [x2, #-8]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 143753737468│          ↑ b      1f04
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -O2 with inlined orthonl:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://people.linaro.org/~prathamesh.kulkarni/perf_O2_inline.data
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 359871503840│ 1ef8:   ldur   d15, [x1, #-248]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 144055883055│            add    w0, w0, #0x1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >   72262104254│            add    x2, x2, #0x18
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 143991169721│            add    x1, x1, #0x48
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 288648917780│            fmul   d15, d17, d15
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 864665644756│            fmul   d15, d15, d18
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 863868426387│            fmul   d14, d15, d14
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 865228159813│            fmadd  d16, d14, d31, d16
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >             245967│            cmp    w0, #0x4
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 215396760545│         ↓ b.eq   1f28
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >       704732365│            ldur   d14, [x2, #-8]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 143775979620│         ↑ b      1ef8
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This indicates that the loop only covers about 46-48% 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of overall time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > High count on the initial ldur instruction could be 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > explained if the loop
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is not entered by "fallthru" from the preceding 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > block, or if its backedge
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is mispredicted. Sampling mispredictions should be 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > possible with perf record,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and you may be able to check if loop entry is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > fallthrough by inspecting
> > > > > > > > > > > > > assembly.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It may also be possible to check if code alignment 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > matters, by compiling with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -falign-loops=32.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for the detailed feedback, and I am sorry 
> > > > > > > > > > > > for late response.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The hoisting region is:
> > > > > > > > > > > > if(mattyp.eq.1) then
> > > > > > > > > > > >   4 loops
> > > > > > > > > > > > elseif(mattyp.eq.2) then
> > > > > > > > > > > >   {
> > > > > > > > > > > >      orthonl inlined into basic block;
> > > > > > > > > > > >      loads w[0] .. w[8]
> > > > > > > > > > > >   }
> > > > > > > > > > > > else
> > > > > > > > > > > >    6 loops  // load anisox
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > followed by basic block:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >  senergy=
> > > > > > > > > > > >      &                    
> > > > > > > > > > > > (s11*w(1,1)+s12*(w(1,2)+w(2,1))
> > > > > > > > > > > >      &                    
> > > > > > > > > > > > +s13*(w(1,3)+w(3,1))+s22*w(2,2)
> > > > > > > > > > > >      &                    
> > > > > > > > > > > > +s23*(w(2,3)+w(3,2))+s33*w(3,3))*weight
> > > > > > > > > > > >                      s(ii1,jj1)=s(ii1,jj1)+senergy
> > > > > > > > > > > >                      
> > > > > > > > > > > > s(ii1+1,jj1+1)=s(ii1+1,jj1+1)+senergy
> > > > > > > > > > > >                      
> > > > > > > > > > > > s(ii1+2,jj1+2)=s(ii1+2,jj1+2)+senergy
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hoisting hoists loads w[0] .. w[8] from orthonl and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > senergy block,
> > > > > > > > > > > > right in block 181, which is:
> > > > > > > > > > > > if (mattyp.eq.2) goto <bb 182> else goto <bb 193>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > which is then further hoisted to block 173:
> > > > > > > > > > > > if (mattyp.eq.1) goto <bb 392> else goto <bb 181>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > From block 181, we have two paths towards senergy block 
> > > > > > > > > > > > (bb 194):
> > > > > > > > > > > > bb 181 -> bb 182 (orthonl block) -> bb 194 (senergy 
> > > > > > > > > > > > block)
> > > > > > > > > > > > AND
> > > > > > > > > > > > bb 181 -> bb 392 <6 loops pre-header> ... -> bb 194
> > > > > > > > > > > > which has a path length of around 18 blocks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > (bb 194 post-dominates bb 181 and bb 173).
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Disabling only load hoisting within blocks 173 and 181
> > > > > > > > > > > > (simply avoid inserting pre_expr if pre_expr->kind == 
> > > > > > > > > > > > REFERENCE),
> > > > > > > > > > > > avoid hoisting of 'w' array and brings back most of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > performance. Which
> > > > > > > > > > > > verifies that it is hoisting of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > 'w' array (w[0] ... w[8]), which is causing the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > slowdown ?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I obtained perf profiles for full hoisting, and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > disabled hoisting of
> > > > > > > > > > > > 'w' array for the 6 loops, and the most drastic 
> > > > > > > > > > > > difference was
> > > > > > > > > > > > for ldur instruction:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > With full hoisting:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 359871503840│ 1ef8:   ldur   d15, [x1, #-248]
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Without full hoisting:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 3441224 │1edc:   ldur   d1, [x1, #-248]
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > (The loop entry seems to be fall thru in both cases. I 
> > > > > > > > > > > > have attached
> > > > > > > > > > > > profiles for both cases).
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > IIUC, the instruction seems to be loading the first 
> > > > > > > > > > > > element from anisox array,
> > > > > > > > > > > > which makes me wonder if the issue was with data-cache 
> > > > > > > > > > > > miss for slower version.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I ran perf script on perf data for 
> > > > > > > > > > > > L1-dcache-load-misses with period = 1million,
> > > > > > > > > > > > and it reported two cache misses on the ldur 
> > > > > > > > > > > > instruction in full hoisting case,
> > > > > > > > > > > > while it reported zero for the disabled load hoisting 
> > > > > > > > > > > > case.
> > > > > > > > > > > > So I wonder if the slowdown happens because hoisting of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 'w' array
> > > > > > > > > > > > possibly results
> > > > > > > > > > > > in eviction of anisox thus causing a cache miss inside 
> > > > > > > > > > > > the inner loop
> > > > > > > > > > > > and making load slower ?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hoisting also seems to improve the number of overall 
> > > > > > > > > > > > cache misses tho.
> > > > > > > > > > > > For disabled hoisting  of 'w' array case, there were a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > total of 463
> > > > > > > > > > > > cache misses, while with full hoisting there were 357 
> > > > > > > > > > > > cache misses
> > > > > > > > > > > > (with period = 1 million).
> > > > > > > > > > > > Does that happen because hoisting probably reduces 
> > > > > > > > > > > > cache misses along
> > > > > > > > > > > > the orthonl path (bb 173 - > bb 181 -> bb 182 -> bb 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 194) ?
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > In general I feel for this or PR80155 case, the issues 
> > > > > > > > > > > come with long
> > > > > > > > > > > range hoistings, inside a large CFG, since we don't have 
> > > > > > > > > > > an accurate
> > > > > > > > > > > way to model target resources (register pressure in 
> > > > > > > > > > > PR80155 case / or
> > > > > > > > > > > possibly cache pressure in this case?) at tree level and 
> > > > > > > > > > > we end up
> > > > > > > > > > > with register spill or cache miss inside loops, which may 
> > > > > > > > > > > offset the
> > > > > > > > > > > benefit of hoisting. As previously discussed the right 
> > > > > > > > > > > way to go is a
> > > > > > > > > > > live range splitting pass, at GIMPLE -> RTL border which 
> > > > > > > > > > > can also help
> > > > > > > > > > > with other code-movement optimizations (or if the source 
> > > > > > > > > > > had variables
> > > > > > > > > > > with long live ranges).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering tho as a cheap workaround, would it make 
> > > > > > > > > > > sense to
> > > > > > > > > > > check if we are hoisting across a "large" region of 
> > > > > > > > > > > nested loops, and
> > > > > > > > > > > avoid in that case since hoisting may exert resource 
> > > > > > > > > > > pressure inside
> > > > > > > > > > > loop region ? (Especially, in the cases where hoisted 
> > > > > > > > > > > expressions were
> > > > > > > > > > > not originally AVAIL in any of the loop blocks, and the 
> > > > > > > > > > > loop region
> > > > > > > > > > > doesn't benefit from hoisting).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > For instance:
> > > > > > > > > > > FOR_EACH_EDGE (e, ei, block)
> > > > > > > > > > >   {
> > > > > > > > > > >     /* Avoid hoisting across more than 3 nested loops */
> > > > > > > > > > >     if (e->dest is a loop pre-header or loop header
> > > > > > > > > > >         && nesting depth of loop is > 3)
> > > > > > > > > > >      return false;
> > > > > > > > > > >   }
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I think this would work for resolving the calculix issue 
> > > > > > > > > > > because it
> > > > > > > > > > > hoists across one region of 6 loops and another of 4 
> > > > > > > > > > > loops (didn' test
> > > > > > > > > > > yet).
> > > > > > > > > > > It's not bulletproof in that it will miss detecting cases 
> > > > > > > > > > > where loop
> > > > > > > > > > > header (or pre-header) isn't a successor of candidate 
> > > > > > > > > > > block (checking
> > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > that might get expensive tho?). I will test it on gcc 
> > > > > > > > > > > suite and SPEC
> > > > > > > > > > > for any regressions.
> > > > > > > > > > > Does this sound like a reasonable heuristic ?
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > The attached patch implements the above heuristic.
> > > > > > > > > > Bootstrapped + tested on x86_64-linux-gnu with no 
> > > > > > > > > > regressions.
> > > > > > > > > > And it brings back most of performance for calculix on par 
> > > > > > > > > > with O2
> > > > > > > > > > (without inlining orthonl).
> > > > > > > > > > I verified that with patch there is no cache miss happening 
> > > > > > > > > > on load
> > > > > > > > > > insn inside loop
> > > > > > > > > > (with perf report -e L1-dcache-load-misses/period=1000000/)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I am in the process of benchmarking the patch on aarch64 
> > > > > > > > > > for SPEC for
> > > > > > > > > > speed and will report numbers
> > > > > > > > > > in couple of days. (If required, we could parametrize 
> > > > > > > > > > number of nested
> > > > > > > > > > loops, hardcoded (arbitrarily to) 3 in this patch,
> > > > > > > > > > and set it in backend to not affect other targets).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I don't think this patch captures the case in a sensible way 
> > > > > > > > > - it will simply
> > > > > > > > > never hoist computations out of loop header blocks with depth 
> > > > > > > > > > 3 which
> > > > > > > > > is certainly not what you want.  Also the pre-header check is 
> > > > > > > > > odd - we're
> > > > > > > > > looking for computations in successors of BLOCK but clearly a 
> > > > > > > > > computation
> > > > > > > > > in a pre-header is not at the same loop level as one in the 
> > > > > > > > > header itself.
> > > > > > > > Well, my intent was to check if we are hoisting across a region,
> > > > > > > > which has multiple nested loops, and in that case, avoid 
> > > > > > > > hoisting expressions
> > > > > > > > that do not belong to any loop blocks, because that may increase
> > > > > > > > resource pressure
> > > > > > > > inside loops. For instance, in the calculix issue we hoist 'w' 
> > > > > > > > array
> > > > > > > > from post-dom and neither
> > > > > > > > loop region has any uses of 'w'.  I agree checking just for 
> > > > > > > > loop level
> > > > > > > > is too coarse.
> > > > > > > > The check with pre-header was essentially the same to see if we 
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > hoisting across a loop region,
> > > > > > > > not necessarily from within the loops.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But it will fail to hoist *p in
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    if (x)
> > > > > > >      {
> > > > > > >         a = *p;
> > > > > > >      }
> > > > > > >   else
> > > > > > >     {
> > > > > > >        b = *p;
> > > > > > >     }
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <make distance large>
> > > > > > > pdom:
> > > > > > >   c = *p;
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > so it isn't what matters either.  What happens at the immediate 
> > > > > > > post-dominator
> > > > > > > isn't directly relevant - what matters would be if the pdom is 
> > > > > > > the one making
> > > > > > > the value antic on one of the outgoing edges.  In that case we're 
> > > > > > > also going
> > > > > > > to PRE *p into the arm not computing *p (albeit in a later 
> > > > > > > position).  But
> > > > > > > that property is impossible to compute from the sets itself (not 
> > > > > > > even mentioning
> > > > > > > the arbitrary CFG that can be inbetween the block and its pdom or 
> > > > > > > the weird
> > > > > > > pdoms we compute for regions not having a path to exit, like 
> > > > > > > infinite loops).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You could eventually look at the pdom predecessors and if *p is 
> > > > > > > not AVAIL_OUT
> > > > > > > in each of them we _might_ have the situation you want to protect 
> > > > > > > against.
> > > > > > > But as said PRE insertion will likely have made sure it _is_ 
> > > > > > > AVAIL_OUT in each
> > > > > > > of them ...
> > > > > > Hi Richard,
> > > > > > Thanks for the suggestions. Right, the issue seems to be here that
> > > > > > post-dom block is making expressions ANTIC. Before doing insert, 
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > we simply copy AVAIL_OUT sets of each block into another set say 
> > > > > > ORIG_AVAIL_OUT,
> > > > > > as a guard against PRE eventually inserting expressions in pred 
> > > > > > blocks
> > > > > > of pdom and making them available?
> > > > > > And during hoisting, we could check if each expr that is ANTIC_IN
> > > > > > (pdom) is ORIG_AVAIL_OUT in each pred of pdom,
> > > > > > if the distance is "large".
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you try if it works w/o copying AVAIL_OUT?  Because AVAIL_OUT is
> > > > > very large (it's actually quadratic in size of the CFG * # values), in
> > > > > particular
> > > > > we're inserting in RPO and update AVAIL_OUT only up to the current 
> > > > > block
> > > > > (from dominators) so the PDOM block should have the original AVAIL_OUT
> > > > > (but from the last iteration - we do iterate insertion).
> > > > >
> > > > > Note I'm still not happy with pulling off this kind of heuristics.
> > > > > What the suggestion
> > > > > means is that for
> > > > >
> > > > >    if (x)
> > > > >      y = *p;
> > > > >    z = *p;
> > > > >
> > > > > we'll end up with
> > > > >
> > > > >   if (x)
> > > > >     y = *p;
> > > > >   else
> > > > >     z = *p;
> > > > >
> > > > > instead of
> > > > >
> > > > >    tem = *p;
> > > > >    if (x)
> > > > >     y = tem;
> > > > >   else
> > > > >     z = tem;
> > > > >
> > > > > that is, we get the runtime benefit but not the code-size one
> > > > > (hoisting mostly helps code size plus allows if-conversion as followup
> > > > > in some cases).  Now, if we iterate (like if we'd have a second 
> > > > > hoisting pass)
> > > > > then the above would still cause hoisting - so the heuristic isn't 
> > > > > sustainable.
> > > > > Again, sth like "distance" isn't really available.
> > > > Hi Richard,
> > > > It doesn't work without copying AVAIL_OUT.
> > > > I tried for small example with attached patch:
> > > >
> > > > int foo(int cond, int x, int y)
> > > > {
> > > >   int t;
> > > >   void f(int);
> > > >
> > > >   if (cond)
> > > >     t = x + y;
> > > >   else
> > > >     t = x - y;
> > > >
> > > >   f (t);
> > > >   int t2 = (x + y) * 10;
> > > >   return t2;
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > By intersecting availout_in_some with AVAIL_OUT of preds of pdom,
> > > > it does not hoist in first pass, but then PRE inserts x + y in the 
> > > > "else block",
> > > > and we eventually hoist before if (cond). Similarly for e_c3d
> > > > hoistings in calculix.
> > > >
> > > > IIUC, we want hoisting to be:
> > > > (ANTIC_IN (block) intersect AVAIL_OUT (preds of pdom)) - AVAIL_OUT 
> > > > (block)
> > > > to ensure that hoisted expressions are along all paths from block to 
> > > > post-dom ?
> > > > If copying AVAIL_OUT sets is too large, could we keep another set that
> > > > precomputes intersection of AVAIL_OUT of pdom preds
> > > > for each block and then use this info during hoisting ?
> > > >
> > > > For computing "distance", I implemented a simple DFS walk from block
> > > > to post-dom, that gives up if depth crosses
> > > > threshold before reaching post-dom. I am not sure tho, how expensive
> > > > that can get.
> > >
> > > As written it is quadratic in the CFG size.
> > >
> > > You can optimize away the
> > >
> > > +    FOR_EACH_EDGE (e, ei, pdom_bb->preds)
> > > +      bitmap_and_into (&availout_in_some, &AVAIL_OUT (e->src)->values);
> > >
> > > loop if the intersection of availout_in_some and ANTIC_IN (pdom) is empty.
> > >
> > > As said, I don't think this is the way to go - trying to avoid code
> > > hoisting isn't
> > > what we'd want to do - your quoted assembly instead points to a loop
> > > with a non-empty latch which is usually caused by PRE and avoided with -O3
> > > because it also harms vectorization.
> > But disabling PRE (which removes non empty latch), only results in
> > marginal performance improvement,
> > while disabling hoisting of 'w' array, with non-empty latch, seems to
> > gain most of the performance.
> > AFAIU, that was happening, because after disabling hoisting of 'w',
> > there wasn't a cache miss (as seen with perf -e
> > L1-dcache-load-misses),
> > on the load instruction inside the inner loop.
>
> But that doesn't make much sense then.  If code generation isn't
> an issue I don't see how the hoisted loads should cause a L1
> dcache load miss for data that is accessed in the respective loop
> as well (though not hoisted from it since at -O2 not sufficiently
> unrolled)
Hi Richard,
I am very sorry to respond late, I was away from work for some
personal commitments, and couldn't respond earlier.
Yes, I agree this doesn't seem to make much sense but I am
consistently seeing L1 dcache load misses, which goes away
after disabling hoisting of 'w'. I am not sure tho why this happens.
Also the load instruction is the only one that has most
significant performance difference across several runs. Or maybe I am
interpreting the results incorrectly.
Do you have suggestions for any benchmarking experiment I could try ?
>
> > For the pdom heuristic, I guess we cannot copy AVAIL_OUT sets per
> > node, since that's quadratic in terms of CFG size.
> > Would it make sense to break interaction between PRE and hoisting,
> > only for the case when inserting into preds of pdom ?
> > I tried doing that in attached patch, where insert runs in two phases:
> > (a) PRE and hoisting, where hoisting marks block to not do PRE for.
> > (b) Second phase, which only runs PRE on all blocks.
> > This (expectedly) regresses ssa-hoist-3.c.
> >
> > If the heuristic isn't acceptable, I suppose encoding distance of expr
> > within ANTIC sets
> > during compute_antic would be the right way to fix this ?
> > So ANTIC_IN (block) contains the anticipated expressions, and for each
> > antic expr, the "distance" from the furthest block
> > it's computed in ? Could you please elaborate a bit on how we could go
> > about encoding distance during compute_antic ?
>
> But the distance in this case is just one CFG node ... we have
>
>  if (mattyp.eq.1)
>    ... use of w but not with constant indices
>  else if (mattyp.eq.2)
>    .. inlined orthonl with constant index w() accesses, single BB
>  else
>    ... use of w but not with constant indices - the actual relevant
> loop of calculix
>  endif
>  ... constant index w() accesses, single BB
>
> so the CFG distance is one node - unless you want to compute the
> maximum distance?  Btw, I only see 9 loads hoisted.
>
> I'm not sure how relevant -O2 -flto SPEC performance is for a FP benchmark.
>
> And indeed this case is exactly one where hoisting is superior to
> PRE which would happily insert the 9 loads into the two variable-access
> predecessors to get rid of the redundancy wrt the mattyp.eq.1 path.
>
> In .optimized I see
>
>   pretmp_5573 = w[0];
>   pretmp_5574 = w[3];
>   pretmp_5575 = w[6];
>   pretmp_5576 = w[1];
>   pretmp_5577 = w[4];
>   pretmp_5578 = w[7];
>   pretmp_5579 = w[2];
>   pretmp_5580 = w[5];
>   pretmp_5581 = w[8];
>   if (mattyp.157_742 == 1)
>
> I do remember talks/patches about ordering of such sequences of loads
> to make them prefetch-happier.  Are the loads actually emitted in-order
> for arm?  Thus w[0]...w[8] rather than as seen above with some random
> permutes inbetween?  On x86 they are emitted in random order
> (they are also spilled immediately).
On aarch64, they are emitted in random order as well.

Thanks,
Prathamesh


Thanks,
Prathamesh
>
> Richard.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Prathamesh
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Prathamesh
> > >
> > > Richard.
> > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Prathamesh
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Prathamesh
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Note the difficulty to capture "distance" is that the 
> > > > > > > > > distance is simply not
> > > > > > > > > available at this point - it is the anticipated values from 
> > > > > > > > > the successors
> > > > > > > > > that do _not_ compute the value itself that are the issue.  
> > > > > > > > > To capture
> > > > > > > > > "distance" you'd need to somehow "age" anticipated value when
> > > > > > > > > propagating them upwards during compute_antic (where it then
> > > > > > > > > would also apply to PRE in general).
> > > > > > > > Yes, indeed.  As a hack, would it make sense to avoid inserting 
> > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > expression in the block,
> > > > > > > > if it's ANTIC in post-dom block as a trade-off between 
> > > > > > > > extending live
> > > > > > > > range and hoisting
> > > > > > > > if the "distance" between block and post-dom is "too far" ? In
> > > > > > > > general, as you point out, we'd need to compute,
> > > > > > > > distance info for successors block during compute_antic, but 
> > > > > > > > special
> > > > > > > > casing for post-dom should be easy enough
> > > > > > > > during do_hoist_insertion, and hoisting an expr that is ANTIC in
> > > > > > > > post-dom could be potentially "long range", if the region is 
> > > > > > > > large.
> > > > > > > > It's still a coarse heuristic tho. I tried it in the attached 
> > > > > > > > patch.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > Prathamesh
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As with all other heuristics the only place one could do 
> > > > > > > > > hackish attempts
> > > > > > > > > with at least some reasoning is the elimination phase where
> > > > > > > > > we make use of the (hoist) insertions - of course for 
> > > > > > > > > hoisting we already
> > > > > > > > > know we'll get the "close" use in one of the successors so I 
> > > > > > > > > fear even
> > > > > > > > > there it will be impossible to do something sensible.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Richard.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > Prathamesh
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > Prathamesh
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > Prathamesh
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Prathamesh
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander

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