On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 6:25 PM Prathamesh Kulkarni
<prathamesh.kulka...@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 at 16:36, Richard Biener <richard.guent...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 11:37 AM Prathamesh Kulkarni
> > <prathamesh.kulka...@linaro.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 at 12:56, Richard Biener <richard.guent...@gmail.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 7:08 AM Prathamesh Kulkarni
> > > > <prathamesh.kulka...@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 at 18:14, Prathamesh Kulkarni
> > > > > <prathamesh.kulka...@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 at 15:19, Prathamesh Kulkarni
> > > > > > <prathamesh.kulka...@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 17:08, Alexander Monakov 
> > > > > > > <amona...@ispras.ru> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I obtained perf stat results for following benchmark runs:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -O2:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >     7856832.692380      task-clock (msec)         #    1.000 
> > > > > > > > > CPUs utilized
> > > > > > > > >               3758               context-switches          #  
> > > > > > > > >   0.000 K/sec
> > > > > > > > >                 40                 cpu-migrations             
> > > > > > > > > #    0.000 K/sec
> > > > > > > > >              40847              page-faults                   
> > > > > > > > > #    0.005 K/sec
> > > > > > > > >      7856782413676      cycles                           #    
> > > > > > > > > 1.000 GHz
> > > > > > > > >      6034510093417      instructions                   #    
> > > > > > > > > 0.77  insn per cycle
> > > > > > > > >       363937274287       branches                       #   
> > > > > > > > > 46.321 M/sec
> > > > > > > > >        48557110132       branch-misses                #   
> > > > > > > > > 13.34% of all branches
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (ouch, 2+ hours per run is a lot, collecting a profile over a 
> > > > > > > > minute should be
> > > > > > > > enough for this kind of code)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -O2 with orthonl inlined:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >     8319643.114380      task-clock (msec)       #    1.000 
> > > > > > > > > CPUs utilized
> > > > > > > > >               4285               context-switches         #   
> > > > > > > > >  0.001 K/sec
> > > > > > > > >                 28                 cpu-migrations            
> > > > > > > > > #    0.000 K/sec
> > > > > > > > >              40843              page-faults                  
> > > > > > > > > #    0.005 K/sec
> > > > > > > > >      8319591038295      cycles                          #    
> > > > > > > > > 1.000 GHz
> > > > > > > > >      6276338800377      instructions                  #    
> > > > > > > > > 0.75  insn per cycle
> > > > > > > > >       467400726106       branches                      #   
> > > > > > > > > 56.180 M/sec
> > > > > > > > >        45986364011        branch-misses              #    
> > > > > > > > > 9.84% of all branches
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So +100e9 branches, but +240e9 instructions and +480e9 cycles, 
> > > > > > > > probably implying
> > > > > > > > that extra instructions are appearing in this loop nest, but 
> > > > > > > > not in the innermost
> > > > > > > > loop. As a reminder for others, the innermost loop has only 3 
> > > > > > > > iterations.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -O2 with orthonl inlined and PRE disabled (this removes the 
> > > > > > > > > extra branches):
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >    8207331.088040      task-clock (msec)   #    1.000 CPUs 
> > > > > > > > > utilized
> > > > > > > > >               2266               context-switches    #    
> > > > > > > > > 0.000 K/sec
> > > > > > > > >                 32                 cpu-migrations       #    
> > > > > > > > > 0.000 K/sec
> > > > > > > > >              40846              page-faults             #    
> > > > > > > > > 0.005 K/sec
> > > > > > > > >      8207292032467      cycles                     #   1.000 
> > > > > > > > > GHz
> > > > > > > > >      6035724436440      instructions             #    0.74  
> > > > > > > > > insn per cycle
> > > > > > > > >       364415440156       branches                 #   44.401 
> > > > > > > > > M/sec
> > > > > > > > >        53138327276        branch-misses         #   14.58% of 
> > > > > > > > > all branches
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This seems to match baseline in terms of instruction count, but 
> > > > > > > > without PRE
> > > > > > > > the loop nest may be carrying some dependencies over memory. I 
> > > > > > > > would simply
> > > > > > > > check the assembly for the entire 6-level loop nest in 
> > > > > > > > question, I hope it's
> > > > > > > > not very complicated (though Fortran array addressing...).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -O2 with orthonl inlined and hoisting disabled:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >    7797265.206850      task-clock (msec)         #    1.000 
> > > > > > > > > CPUs utilized
> > > > > > > > >               3139              context-switches          #   
> > > > > > > > >  0.000 K/sec
> > > > > > > > >                 20                cpu-migrations             
> > > > > > > > > #    0.000 K/sec
> > > > > > > > >              40846              page-faults                  
> > > > > > > > > #    0.005 K/sec
> > > > > > > > >      7797221351467      cycles                          #    
> > > > > > > > > 1.000 GHz
> > > > > > > > >      6187348757324      instructions                  #    
> > > > > > > > > 0.79  insn per cycle
> > > > > > > > >       461840800061       branches                      #   
> > > > > > > > > 59.231 M/sec
> > > > > > > > >        26920311761        branch-misses             #    
> > > > > > > > > 5.83% of all branches
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There's a 20e9 reduction in branch misses and a 500e9 reduction 
> > > > > > > > in cycle count.
> > > > > > > > I don't think the former fully covers the latter (there's also 
> > > > > > > > a 90e9 reduction
> > > > > > > > in insn count).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Given that the inner loop iterates only 3 times, my main 
> > > > > > > > suggestion is to
> > > > > > > > consider how the profile for the entire loop nest looks like 
> > > > > > > > (it's 6 loops deep,
> > > > > > > > each iterating only 3 times).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Perf profiles for
> > > > > > > > > -O2 -fno-code-hoisting and inlined orthonl:
> > > > > > > > > https://people.linaro.org/~prathamesh.kulkarni/perf_O2_inline.data
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >           3196866 |1f04:    ldur   d1, [x1, #-248]
> > > > > > > > > 216348301800│            add    w0, w0, #0x1
> > > > > > > > >             985098 |            add    x2, x2, #0x18
> > > > > > > > > 216215999206│            add    x1, x1, #0x48
> > > > > > > > > 215630376504│            fmul   d1, d5, d1
> > > > > > > > > 863829148015│            fmul   d1, d1, d6
> > > > > > > > > 864228353526│            fmul   d0, d1, d0
> > > > > > > > > 864568163014│            fmadd  d2, d0, d16, d2
> > > > > > > > >                         │             cmp    w0, #0x4
> > > > > > > > > 216125427594│          ↓ b.eq   1f34
> > > > > > > > >         15010377│             ldur   d0, [x2, #-8]
> > > > > > > > > 143753737468│          ↑ b      1f04
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -O2 with inlined orthonl:
> > > > > > > > > https://people.linaro.org/~prathamesh.kulkarni/perf_O2_inline.data
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 359871503840│ 1ef8:   ldur   d15, [x1, #-248]
> > > > > > > > > 144055883055│            add    w0, w0, #0x1
> > > > > > > > >   72262104254│            add    x2, x2, #0x18
> > > > > > > > > 143991169721│            add    x1, x1, #0x48
> > > > > > > > > 288648917780│            fmul   d15, d17, d15
> > > > > > > > > 864665644756│            fmul   d15, d15, d18
> > > > > > > > > 863868426387│            fmul   d14, d15, d14
> > > > > > > > > 865228159813│            fmadd  d16, d14, d31, d16
> > > > > > > > >             245967│            cmp    w0, #0x4
> > > > > > > > > 215396760545│         ↓ b.eq   1f28
> > > > > > > > >       704732365│            ldur   d14, [x2, #-8]
> > > > > > > > > 143775979620│         ↑ b      1ef8
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This indicates that the loop only covers about 46-48% of 
> > > > > > > > overall time.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > High count on the initial ldur instruction could be explained 
> > > > > > > > if the loop
> > > > > > > > is not entered by "fallthru" from the preceding block, or if 
> > > > > > > > its backedge
> > > > > > > > is mispredicted. Sampling mispredictions should be possible 
> > > > > > > > with perf record,
> > > > > > > > and you may be able to check if loop entry is fallthrough by 
> > > > > > > > inspecting
> > > > > > > > assembly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It may also be possible to check if code alignment matters, by 
> > > > > > > > compiling with
> > > > > > > > -falign-loops=32.
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > Thanks a lot for the detailed feedback, and I am sorry for late 
> > > > > > > response.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The hoisting region is:
> > > > > > > if(mattyp.eq.1) then
> > > > > > >   4 loops
> > > > > > > elseif(mattyp.eq.2) then
> > > > > > >   {
> > > > > > >      orthonl inlined into basic block;
> > > > > > >      loads w[0] .. w[8]
> > > > > > >   }
> > > > > > > else
> > > > > > >    6 loops  // load anisox
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > followed by basic block:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  senergy=
> > > > > > >      &                    (s11*w(1,1)+s12*(w(1,2)+w(2,1))
> > > > > > >      &                    +s13*(w(1,3)+w(3,1))+s22*w(2,2)
> > > > > > >      &                    +s23*(w(2,3)+w(3,2))+s33*w(3,3))*weight
> > > > > > >                      s(ii1,jj1)=s(ii1,jj1)+senergy
> > > > > > >                      s(ii1+1,jj1+1)=s(ii1+1,jj1+1)+senergy
> > > > > > >                      s(ii1+2,jj1+2)=s(ii1+2,jj1+2)+senergy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hoisting hoists loads w[0] .. w[8] from orthonl and senergy block,
> > > > > > > right in block 181, which is:
> > > > > > > if (mattyp.eq.2) goto <bb 182> else goto <bb 193>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > which is then further hoisted to block 173:
> > > > > > > if (mattyp.eq.1) goto <bb 392> else goto <bb 181>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From block 181, we have two paths towards senergy block (bb 194):
> > > > > > > bb 181 -> bb 182 (orthonl block) -> bb 194 (senergy block)
> > > > > > > AND
> > > > > > > bb 181 -> bb 392 <6 loops pre-header> ... -> bb 194
> > > > > > > which has a path length of around 18 blocks.
> > > > > > > (bb 194 post-dominates bb 181 and bb 173).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Disabling only load hoisting within blocks 173 and 181
> > > > > > > (simply avoid inserting pre_expr if pre_expr->kind == REFERENCE),
> > > > > > > avoid hoisting of 'w' array and brings back most of performance. 
> > > > > > > Which
> > > > > > > verifies that it is hoisting of the
> > > > > > > 'w' array (w[0] ... w[8]), which is causing the slowdown ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I obtained perf profiles for full hoisting, and disabled hoisting 
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > 'w' array for the 6 loops, and the most drastic difference was
> > > > > > > for ldur instruction:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With full hoisting:
> > > > > > > 359871503840│ 1ef8:   ldur   d15, [x1, #-248]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Without full hoisting:
> > > > > > > 3441224 │1edc:   ldur   d1, [x1, #-248]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (The loop entry seems to be fall thru in both cases. I have 
> > > > > > > attached
> > > > > > > profiles for both cases).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > IIUC, the instruction seems to be loading the first element from 
> > > > > > > anisox array,
> > > > > > > which makes me wonder if the issue was with data-cache miss for 
> > > > > > > slower version.
> > > > > > > I ran perf script on perf data for L1-dcache-load-misses with 
> > > > > > > period = 1million,
> > > > > > > and it reported two cache misses on the ldur instruction in full 
> > > > > > > hoisting case,
> > > > > > > while it reported zero for the disabled load hoisting case.
> > > > > > > So I wonder if the slowdown happens because hoisting of 'w' array
> > > > > > > possibly results
> > > > > > > in eviction of anisox thus causing a cache miss inside the inner 
> > > > > > > loop
> > > > > > > and making load slower ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hoisting also seems to improve the number of overall cache misses 
> > > > > > > tho.
> > > > > > > For disabled hoisting  of 'w' array case, there were a total of 
> > > > > > > 463
> > > > > > > cache misses, while with full hoisting there were 357 cache misses
> > > > > > > (with period = 1 million).
> > > > > > > Does that happen because hoisting probably reduces cache misses 
> > > > > > > along
> > > > > > > the orthonl path (bb 173 - > bb 181 -> bb 182 -> bb 194) ?
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > In general I feel for this or PR80155 case, the issues come with 
> > > > > > long
> > > > > > range hoistings, inside a large CFG, since we don't have an accurate
> > > > > > way to model target resources (register pressure in PR80155 case / 
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > possibly cache pressure in this case?) at tree level and we end up
> > > > > > with register spill or cache miss inside loops, which may offset the
> > > > > > benefit of hoisting. As previously discussed the right way to go is 
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > live range splitting pass, at GIMPLE -> RTL border which can also 
> > > > > > help
> > > > > > with other code-movement optimizations (or if the source had 
> > > > > > variables
> > > > > > with long live ranges).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was wondering tho as a cheap workaround, would it make sense to
> > > > > > check if we are hoisting across a "large" region of nested loops, 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > avoid in that case since hoisting may exert resource pressure inside
> > > > > > loop region ? (Especially, in the cases where hoisted expressions 
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > not originally AVAIL in any of the loop blocks, and the loop region
> > > > > > doesn't benefit from hoisting).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For instance:
> > > > > > FOR_EACH_EDGE (e, ei, block)
> > > > > >   {
> > > > > >     /* Avoid hoisting across more than 3 nested loops */
> > > > > >     if (e->dest is a loop pre-header or loop header
> > > > > >         && nesting depth of loop is > 3)
> > > > > >      return false;
> > > > > >   }
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think this would work for resolving the calculix issue because it
> > > > > > hoists across one region of 6 loops and another of 4 loops (didn' 
> > > > > > test
> > > > > > yet).
> > > > > > It's not bulletproof in that it will miss detecting cases where loop
> > > > > > header (or pre-header) isn't a successor of candidate block 
> > > > > > (checking
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > that might get expensive tho?). I will test it on gcc suite and SPEC
> > > > > > for any regressions.
> > > > > > Does this sound like a reasonable heuristic ?
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > The attached patch implements the above heuristic.
> > > > > Bootstrapped + tested on x86_64-linux-gnu with no regressions.
> > > > > And it brings back most of performance for calculix on par with O2
> > > > > (without inlining orthonl).
> > > > > I verified that with patch there is no cache miss happening on load
> > > > > insn inside loop
> > > > > (with perf report -e L1-dcache-load-misses/period=1000000/)
> > > > >
> > > > > I am in the process of benchmarking the patch on aarch64 for SPEC for
> > > > > speed and will report numbers
> > > > > in couple of days. (If required, we could parametrize number of nested
> > > > > loops, hardcoded (arbitrarily to) 3 in this patch,
> > > > > and set it in backend to not affect other targets).
> > > >
> > > > I don't think this patch captures the case in a sensible way - it will 
> > > > simply
> > > > never hoist computations out of loop header blocks with depth > 3 which
> > > > is certainly not what you want.  Also the pre-header check is odd - 
> > > > we're
> > > > looking for computations in successors of BLOCK but clearly a 
> > > > computation
> > > > in a pre-header is not at the same loop level as one in the header 
> > > > itself.
> > > Well, my intent was to check if we are hoisting across a region,
> > > which has multiple nested loops, and in that case, avoid hoisting 
> > > expressions
> > > that do not belong to any loop blocks, because that may increase
> > > resource pressure
> > > inside loops. For instance, in the calculix issue we hoist 'w' array
> > > from post-dom and neither
> > > loop region has any uses of 'w'.  I agree checking just for loop level
> > > is too coarse.
> > > The check with pre-header was essentially the same to see if we are
> > > hoisting across a loop region,
> > > not necessarily from within the loops.
> >
> > But it will fail to hoist *p in
> >
> >    if (x)
> >      {
> >         a = *p;
> >      }
> >   else
> >     {
> >        b = *p;
> >     }
> >
> > <make distance large>
> > pdom:
> >   c = *p;
> >
> > so it isn't what matters either.  What happens at the immediate 
> > post-dominator
> > isn't directly relevant - what matters would be if the pdom is the one 
> > making
> > the value antic on one of the outgoing edges.  In that case we're also going
> > to PRE *p into the arm not computing *p (albeit in a later position).  But
> > that property is impossible to compute from the sets itself (not even 
> > mentioning
> > the arbitrary CFG that can be inbetween the block and its pdom or the weird
> > pdoms we compute for regions not having a path to exit, like infinite 
> > loops).
> >
> > You could eventually look at the pdom predecessors and if *p is not 
> > AVAIL_OUT
> > in each of them we _might_ have the situation you want to protect against.
> > But as said PRE insertion will likely have made sure it _is_ AVAIL_OUT in 
> > each
> > of them ...
> Hi Richard,
> Thanks for the suggestions. Right, the issue seems to be here that
> post-dom block is making expressions ANTIC. Before doing insert, could
> we simply copy AVAIL_OUT sets of each block into another set say 
> ORIG_AVAIL_OUT,
> as a guard against PRE eventually inserting expressions in pred blocks
> of pdom and making them available?
> And during hoisting, we could check if each expr that is ANTIC_IN
> (pdom) is ORIG_AVAIL_OUT in each pred of pdom,
> if the distance is "large".

Did you try if it works w/o copying AVAIL_OUT?  Because AVAIL_OUT is
very large (it's actually quadratic in size of the CFG * # values), in
particular
we're inserting in RPO and update AVAIL_OUT only up to the current block
(from dominators) so the PDOM block should have the original AVAIL_OUT
(but from the last iteration - we do iterate insertion).

Note I'm still not happy with pulling off this kind of heuristics.
What the suggestion
means is that for

   if (x)
     y = *p;
   z = *p;

we'll end up with

  if (x)
    y = *p;
  else
    z = *p;

instead of

   tem = *p;
   if (x)
    y = tem;
  else
    z = tem;

that is, we get the runtime benefit but not the code-size one
(hoisting mostly helps code size plus allows if-conversion as followup
in some cases).  Now, if we iterate (like if we'd have a second hoisting pass)
then the above would still cause hoisting - so the heuristic isn't sustainable.
Again, sth like "distance" isn't really available.

Richard.

> Thanks,
> Prathamesh
>
>
> >
> > > >
> > > > Note the difficulty to capture "distance" is that the distance is 
> > > > simply not
> > > > available at this point - it is the anticipated values from the 
> > > > successors
> > > > that do _not_ compute the value itself that are the issue.  To capture
> > > > "distance" you'd need to somehow "age" anticipated value when
> > > > propagating them upwards during compute_antic (where it then
> > > > would also apply to PRE in general).
> > > Yes, indeed.  As a hack, would it make sense to avoid inserting an
> > > expression in the block,
> > > if it's ANTIC in post-dom block as a trade-off between extending live
> > > range and hoisting
> > > if the "distance" between block and post-dom is "too far" ? In
> > > general, as you point out, we'd need to compute,
> > > distance info for successors block during compute_antic, but special
> > > casing for post-dom should be easy enough
> > > during do_hoist_insertion, and hoisting an expr that is ANTIC in
> > > post-dom could be potentially "long range", if the region is large.
> > > It's still a coarse heuristic tho. I tried it in the attached patch.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Prathamesh
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > As with all other heuristics the only place one could do hackish 
> > > > attempts
> > > > with at least some reasoning is the elimination phase where
> > > > we make use of the (hoist) insertions - of course for hoisting we 
> > > > already
> > > > know we'll get the "close" use in one of the successors so I fear even
> > > > there it will be impossible to do something sensible.
> > > >
> > > > Richard.
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Prathamesh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Prathamesh
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Prathamesh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Prathamesh
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alexander

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