On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:47:18AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Peter O'Gorman wrote:
> > Yuhong Bao wrote:
> >> and Apple uses GCC (which is now under GPLv3) and Mac OS X on it.
> >> Unfortunately, the iPhone is incompatible with GPLv3, if you want more see
> >> the link I mentioned.
> > 
> > Apple does not use a GPLv3 version of GCC.
> 
> Ah, actually I think I now see the OP's point.  Apple is scared of the
> GPLv3 because the iPhone might violate it, so they are not contributing
> to anything that falls under the GPLv3.
> 
> It is indeed in-topic.  There are four Darwin maintainers listed in
> MAINTAINERS:
> 
> darwin port             Dale Johannesen         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> darwin port             Mike Stump              [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> darwin port             Eric Christopher        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> darwin port             Stan Shebs              [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> and three of them are not allowed to read the GCC patches mailing list.
>    They might do something if CCed, but not necessarily so.  Same for
> Objective-C/C++:
> 
> objective-c/c++         Mike Stump              [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> objective-c/c++         Stan Shebs              [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> Now I wonder:
> 
> 1) does it make sense to keep a maintainer category that is known to be
> inactive?
> 
> 2) who should then get maintainership of darwin?  note that there are
> some patches for darwin like this one:
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gcc.patches/172498
> 
> It's sad, but I think that there is need for the SC to take action on this.
> 
> Paolo

Well at least that explains their total inactivity in the last year. Is Dale
the one still allowed to read the gcc-patches mailing list? I recall that he
posted in the last year that he would be more active in gcc (but I can't find
that message at the moment). I had attributed the fact that they were not
active to the emphasis on llvm at Apple. However if GPLv3 is such a huge issue
at Apple, it does make one wonder if llvm will ever see a gcc front-end newer
than the current 4.2 one.
                     Jack

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