https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=96926
--- Comment #4 from Jason Merrill <jason at gcc dot gnu.org> --- Further reduced: template <typename T> struct A { using type = typename T::type; }; template <typename U> class B { template <typename V = int, typename A<V>::type X> B(U); }; struct C { B<int> b; C(); }; int main() { C c; } We run into trouble trying to implicitly declare the copy constructor for C, which involves overload resolution to find the constructor called for copying B<int>. After r262172, when we consider the constructor template, we try to substitute the default template argument for V into the type of X, which involves instantiating A<int>, which fails. Before r262172, we would see that we can't convert B<int> to int, and give up on the candidate before getting to this substitution. But r262172 moves the convertibility checking until after we're done with deduction, as per http://wg21.link/cwg2369 I think perhaps it's wrong to do substitution at this point because X has no default argument. Giving it a default argument causes clang 10 to also reject the testcase.