> Eva Durant wrote:
> >
> > The pie had a remarkable growth in this century,
>
> Define "pie" please. A majority of Nobel winners alive have signed a
> Warning to Humanity about the rapid *shrinkage* of the "pie" both in
> toto, & far more severely - per capita.
>
I don't know the details of the statistics, but I've seen some
convincing interpolation for a sustainable and wealthy society for
15 billion or so people.
> Some things limitless on earth are human imagination, blind faith,
> & speculation. Until our sun dies, we do get it's radiation, but even
> that isn't "limitless" in quantity.
>
human creativity -especially if include the million of geniuses
now dying before their first birthday - could provide the
technology for our sustainance. If we survive the next few years
of capitalism...
> It seems your scope is limited by ideology. I seek slow attrition
> via voluntary low birth rates
a better living standard and education is a pre-condition for that.
How will you provide it world-wide? You can't even do it
in the richest countries.
> > which can only be achieved with adequate
> > distribution of the pie,
>
> Equally insufficient amounts of food, water, energy... lead to
> equalized
> death. Nature doesn't work that way. No other life form (except
> humans)
> attempts this impossibility. Also, every human displaces non-human
> habitat.
Even at present the world income/capita is not a bad figure, but
could be much better. If private appropriation of socially produced
products would stop, there would be sufficient goods for everyone.
Only if planned and integrated, can production be consistent
with the conservation of the necessary ecology.
> This pie "makes itself". Did you read the short excerpt I posted
> from David Suzuki? I wish we could just think our way out of the
> dilemma.:-)
I missed it, as it was long. I wish people sum up stuff for
people who have to work for a living...
> Technology and good feelings cannot replace nature. BTW, I agree re
> arms &
> "dirty" industries as part of problem; but elimination is not
> sufficient
> for "resolutique".
>
> Steve Kurtz
>
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